I got something most valuable out of your process (second paragraph).
Thanks Jim.
~PM

Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2014 18:51:23 -0400
Subject: Re: [agi] Failure Predictors
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]

Failure Analysis presupposes a fine discrimination of what constitutes a 
failure. The ability to reliably create a good theory in response to a failure 
requires intelligence as a pre-requisite. I studied a lot different kinds of 
ideas like this 20 or 30 years ago.  But, as far as I am concerned the real 
question now is how can we reliably create a better theory from earlier 
theories. Part of the problem is that we may, in many cases, not have a good 
criteria to determine how good the theory is and a good theory may fail because 
a minor part of it is not reliable.

The kinds of discussions that we have in these groups are demonstrations of 
this problem but they are usually complicated theories that are largely based 
on basic assumptions that we can develop well. (Notice that some people have 
assumptions that seem obviously wrong and there can be other assumptions that 
people disagree with even though they cannot substantiate their point of view. 
For example, some people think my theory that a polynomial time solution to 
logical satisfiability is quite possible seems like blatant nonsense to some 
people, while I think their certainty about something which is famously 
unproven is based on some pretty insubstantial premises.

So what do I do to try to create a better theory. I keep trying different 
things and if the results do not produce any improvements then I have to adjust 
my expectations of the feasibility of finding  a solution. On the other hand, 
if I find something that works in a variety of simple cases then I can keep 
trying more complicated cases to see if it works within the significant 
characteristics of the problem. (Like looking at the increase in complexity for 
the worse cases as the number of variables increase, and then examining a range 
of problems in well-known formats like 3-SAT.) 

But failure in Logical Satisfiability is easy to discriminate as long as you 
are careful.Jim Bromer
 Why nod - just start with simple projections of conjectured relations.



On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 2:53 AM, Piaget Modeler via AGI <[email protected]> 
wrote:





I'm just beginning this enquiry, 
Found this:   http://research.me.udel.edu/~jglancey/FailureAnalysis.pdf


as well as a pointer to Anticipatory Failure Determination (AFD)
Cheers so far...
~PM

From: [email protected]


To: [email protected]
Subject: [agi] Failure Predictors
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 23:13:51 -0700




Wonder if anyone is still alive on this thread besides Jim B.
I guess it's the summer. 

When we experience an expectation failure, somehow I think we form a theory of 
the failure, and seek to elaborate that theory.


I don't have the right keywords but is there any literature or research on 
creating failure predictors, or forming failure hypotheses?
Kindly advise.


~PM                                       


  
    
      
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