Trying to wrap my mind around the big picture AGI is the hardest activity I know. I've had concussions playing football, got an A in calculus, even was told to smile when having my picture taken. If you aren't feeling dizzy with a hurting head you aren't getting anywhere :)
On 10/10/14, Piaget Modeler via AGI <[email protected]> wrote: > My head is starting to hurt. Feeling dizzy. Too many words not enough code. > Please write this in a programming language. Any language you choose. > Let's make it formal not fuzzy. > Thanks, > ~PM > >> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2014 21:16:11 -0400 >> Subject: [agi] Conceptual Relativity >> From: [email protected] >> To: [email protected] >> >> I just read that Putnam used the term "Conceptual Relativity". >> From >> http://www.u.arizona.edu/~thorgan/papers/eminee/ConceptualRelativity.htm >> "One of the key ideas of conceptual relativity is that certain >> concepts including such fundamental concepts as object, entity, and >> existence have a multiplicity of different and incompatible uses >> (Putnam 1987, p. 19; 1988, pp. 110-14)." >> >> My idea of Conceptual Relativity goes further than this although I >> have talked about things like the integration of incommensurate data >> objects (or references) and things like that. >> >> But to get to what I was saying recently in another message, the >> nature of conceptual relativity, as it relates to AGI projects, makes >> a demand that we consider the effects of such things in our most >> fundamental definitions of the data objects that an AGI program would >> use. We have to use concepts in order to examine and use concepts. An >> illustration of Conceptual Relativity then is the case where the >> concepts that we use to shape a group of target subject concepts might >> themselves be shaped by the process. As I suggested, this is not a >> wacky theory but the expected experience of intelligent thought. >> >> And the concepts that are used in thinking might be described as >> playing different kinds of roles in these uses. These roles are >> significant because they can be used to further generalize and >> categorize the interaction of concepts. They are also significant >> because their use makes sense. >> >> This definition of systems of interrelated concepts does not have to >> be fully defined at the very start of a computational investigation of >> the nature. This is something that I have been looking for because we >> can't just jump in with a full fledged AGI project. We have to start >> off with something simple, and the over reliance on conventional >> programming objects has not been demonstrated any real traction in AGI >> type programs. By starting with some simple definitions of how >> systems of interrelated concepts might develop and play different >> roles, I believe that another step toward creating better AGI programs >> may be made. We have to figure out how to manage these 'concepts' or >> concept-like data objects so that they do not quickly lose traction >> when they are applied to references which do not act according to some >> conventional plan. The only way this can be done is by defining these >> systems so that they can exhibit the flexibility of conceptual >> relativity and then create the management strategies that will tend to >> handle new referential complexities as they are discovered. >> >> Jim Bromer >> >> >> ------------------------------------------- >> AGI >> Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now >> RSS Feed: >> https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/19999924-4a978ccc >> Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?&; >> Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com > > > > ------------------------------------------- > AGI > Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now > RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/11943661-d9279dae > Modify Your Subscription: > https://www.listbox.com/member/?&; > Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com > ------------------------------------------- AGI Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/21088071-f452e424 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=21088071&id_secret=21088071-58d57657 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
