computing with salmonella and e coli bacteria? And some of you ridicule COBOL!
On 2/12/15, Jim Bromer via AGI <[email protected]> wrote: > Microbes have reproduction constraints (complicated by food and waste > constraints) and the idea that a colony of bacteria could work on > successively more complicated graphs without running into > surface/reproduction constraints is a little hard to believe. Even > within a near future sci-fi system which includes modern micro > plumbing and micro cafeterias and other stuff that would allow the > system to work on more and more complicated problems the petri dish > could not solve the problem. If the Hamilton Problem could be solved > by breaking it into smaller parts it would not be (or no longer be) a > np-complete problem would it?. So the number of microbes that could > line the paths would be severely constrained. > Jim Bromer > > > On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 4:51 PM, Jim Bromer <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Don't underestimate the complexity of chemical computation occurring with >>> microorganisms such as bacteria. The more it's investigated the more >>> underestimated the molecular sophistication seems... >>> >>> Also FYI it's shown that NP-complete problems can be solved with >>> bacterial computers: >>> http://www.jbioleng.org/content/3/1/11/abstract >>> >>> John >> >> Do you understand the basics of their claims? How was the desired >> result represented? I mean I read the part about fluorescing both red >> and green, but does that mean that the two colonies were on either end >> of a 3-node directed path? It doesn't quite make sense to say that >> the bacterial computer can solve exponentially complex problems does >> it? Is a 3-node directed graph really evidence of an exponential to >> polynomial time solution, or is this really just an initial >> feasibility test? >> Jim Bromer >> >> >> On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 3:21 PM, John Rose via AGI <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Matt Mahoney via AGI [mailto:[email protected]] >>>> >>>> 10^40 self replicating organisms over the last 3 billion years have long >>>> since >>>> solved the problem of traveling over snow without leaving footprints, >>>> but have >>>> failed to solve any NP-complete problems. >>>> >>> >>> Don't underestimate the complexity of chemical computation occurring with >>> microorganisms such as bacteria. The more it's investigated the more >>> underestimated the molecular sophistication seems... >>> >>> Also FYI it's shown that NP-complete problems can be solved with >>> bacterial computers: >>> http://www.jbioleng.org/content/3/1/11/abstract >>> >>> John >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------- >>> AGI >>> Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now >>> RSS Feed: >>> https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/24379807-653794b5 >>> Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?&; >>> Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com > > > ------------------------------------------- > AGI > Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now > RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/11943661-d9279dae > Modify Your Subscription: > https://www.listbox.com/member/?&; > Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com > ------------------------------------------- AGI Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/21088071-f452e424 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=21088071&id_secret=21088071-58d57657 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
