Jim Bromer,

I only listened to about 15 minutes a the start of the video (it seemed
similar to previous speeches I have heard from him), and skipped ahead to
hear Kurzweil questioning him about 40 minutes in, and then quit after
hearing his response to Ray.

One of Searle's main mistakes is his claim that digital computers are
syntactical, that humans think largely semantically (which I agree with),
and that syntactical computation can never compute semantics (which I
disagree with).  One of the major philosophical advancements in
understanding cognitive computing is that through grounding  with massive
experientially connected experiential data syntax can, in fact, compute
semantics.  The advances being made in deep learning strongly support
this.  For example, deep learning indicates the visual meaning of a concept
such as "cat", with all of its rich possible visual variations can be
understood by what Searle calls a syntactical system.  If deep learning
systems for vision were connected with deep learning systems for hearing,
touch, emotions, goals, behaviors, etc, the combined system would have even
a much richer understanding of the meaning of a word such as "cat".

So Searle's thinking is deeply flawed.  But Searle's notion that
consciousness requires computation having qualities shared by biological
brains that are not shared by current computers, even current deep learning
systems, is not clearly wrong.

Ed Porter

P.S. Jim, If you get this message. please given me a brief ping to say you
have.  For the last several months all of my posts to [email protected] have
been returned with an error message.  I have emailed Ben directly to ask
what the problem is and he has not responded.  I am trying to determine if
I have been ejected from this list because I dared to ask to publicly
debate with Ben about his dismissal of my Computational Awarenes Theory of
Consciousness, or if there is some technical error.

On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 5:22 PM, Jim Bromer <[email protected]> wrote:

> John Searle: "Consciousness in Artificial Intelligence" | Talks at Google.
> I just started listening to it, but it is interesting. He starts with
> epistemic objectivity and ontological subjectivity (but promises to
> avoid using too many polysyllabic words.)
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHKwIYsPXLg
> Jim Bromer
>
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