Tim,

Trying to see the forest from under the pine needles on the forest floor is
difficult. I wrote a paper, copies of which are on various servers around
the Internet, entitled *The Itanium Effect* that seeks to see our present
situation from a higher point of view. There are easy orders of magnitude
just waiting to be harvested, the most important of which are architectures
that are fundamentally fault tolerant. Once on a fault tolerant platform,
designs can be made independently of yield considerations, like massive
configured-on-the-fly data pipelining, super-wide memory busses, etc.

My paper advances an approach that is not only fault tolerant, but which
will continue producing correct results, even in the presence of new faults
while computation is proceeding. All this while requiring little additional
hardware and being VERY power efficient.

Nothing really new is needed for such operation - just a slightly unusual
architecture made up of fairly ordinary pieces.

Also, as probably the only one on this forum owing their very own analog
computer, I have looked at the arguments for analog computation. The issue
boils down to the prospective need for bidirectional computation like in
electric circuits, where information flows in BOTH directions, e.g. voltage
out, and impedance in. This sort of computation is clearly being done in
the brain and is probably needed for intelligence, yet is quite difficult
for unidirectional computers (e.g. digital computers) to simulate, while
bidirectional computing is quite natural for analog methods.

For unidirectional computation having clearly delimited inputs and outputs,
something new seems to be needed for analog computation, as biological
systems can integrate (in the calculus sense) over VERY long times by
accumulating particular ions, whereas electronic integration is NOT stable
over the long term. Also, as you make analog devices smaller and smaller,
they get noisier and noisier, which would seem to limit their application
in the world of VLSI ICs. There ARE technologies partially addressing these
issues, e.g. current-mode communication, holding capacitors with CMOS
switches, etc., but the REAL analog vs. digital decider seems to be the
prospective need for bidirectional computation.

I have posted about the need for bidirectional computation in the past, but
apparently no one here wants to even think about such things, because such
a need would pretty much doom AGI on conventional digital computers. I want
to look at making digital computers suitable for bidirectional computing
with special ALU architectures, etc., which appears to be possible, but
again, if you can't do it on a PC (except VERY slowly in simulation), then
nearly everyone here simply goes on to the next posting.

I think this is a make-or-break issue for AGI, but I am apparently alone in
this belief.

*Steve*






On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 8:51 AM, TimTyler <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi. Here's a recent essay relating to machine intelligence.
>
> It is titled: "Architectural limits to computation":
>
> http://matchingpennies.com/architectural_limits_to_computation/
>
> The topic is hardware limitations and bottlenecks. Three
> of these are listed:
>
>  * Lack of parallelism;
>  * Global synchrony;
>  * Digitization;
>
> In the essay, I argue that the demands of machine intelligence
> systems is likely to supply pressure to overcome these issues.
>
> I also point out the the effect of architectural changes to
> overcome these issues would be large - and that if they all
> happened it would be a spectacular revolution in our ideas
> about how to build computers.
>
> Probably the most controversial point is the third one -
> where I weigh in on the issue of whether there will be a
> resurgence of analog computing associated with neuromorphic
> hardware (or other similar machine learning hardware).
>
> This seems plausible to me - but the larger issue of whether
> most future computers will be digital, analog or hybrid
> designs seems unclear.
>
> --
> __________
>  |im Tyler http://timtyler.org/
>
>
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