Yes.... Of course, their general conclusions wouldn't seem surprising at all to anyone with any experience w/ evolutionary algorithms. Of course trying to estimate the value function is a complicated approach that will only work well in problems that are relatively simple in appropriate ways....
Eventually these guys will figure out that while ES is good, for sufficiently complex problems with enough data available it's also valuable to use more advanced variants that include estimates of dependencies between variables (without trying to make an estimate of the whole value function). And then they will discover that EDAs are a good idea ... and maybe they'll discover MOSES ... etc. etc. ... It feels to me like the OpenAI folks don't have a clear picture in their minds of how to create AGI or even of how to create more and more powerful narrow AIs. But they do have a willingness to use their ample resources to implement and test various approaches at reasonable scale, and that's worth something... On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 8:40 PM, Logan Streondj <[email protected]> wrote: > Lol yeah, > I predict evolutionary strategies will be the next hypey thing, as the > spiral of old becoming new happens again. > > There are a large number of new people in ML that only entered after the > deep learning hype, so have never investigated evolutionary strategies, > considering them for 'old people' that didn't know what they were doing. > > Thus you get articles like this, young hipsters rummaging in the attic for > treasure, claiming them as new discoveries. > > > > On March 24, 2017 10:40:11 PM EDT, Ben Goertzel <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> In the "Well, duhhh" department -- OpenAI finds evolution distributed >> strategies outperform neural nets for reinforcement learning in test >> problems, >> >> https://blog.openai.com/evolution-strategies/ > > > -- > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. > > > > > > ------------------------------------------- > AGI > Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now > RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/19237892-5029d625 > Modify Your Subscription: > https://www.listbox.com/member/?&; > Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com > -- Ben Goertzel, PhD http://goertzel.org “Our first mothers and fathers … were endowed with intelligence; they saw and instantly they could see far … they succeeded in knowing all that there is in the world. When they looked, instantly they saw all around them, and they contemplated in turn the arch of heaven and the round face of the earth. … Great was their wisdom …. They were able to know all.... But the Creator and the Maker did not hear this with pleasure. … ‘Are they not by nature simple creatures of our making? Must they also be gods? … What if they do not reproduce and multiply?’ Then the Heart of Heaven blew mist into their eyes, which clouded their sight as when a mirror is breathed upon. Their eyes were covered and they could see only what was close, only that was clear to them.” — Popol Vuh (holy book of the ancient Mayas) ------------------------------------------- AGI Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/21088071-f452e424 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=21088071&id_secret=21088071-58d57657 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
