Damien, This is great stuff...and I wouldn't expect less from CalTech, although I might have expected MIT to be the first to formalize this ;-).
Just kidding...I became aware of the sometimes intense rivalry between the two institutions during my post-doc work in experimental gravitational-wave detector development some years ago...imagine trying to observe a fluctuation the size of a hydrogen atom over the earth-sun distance...a proposition in 'quantum fluctuation measurement insanity' that both institutions took on with real scientific fervor and seemed to make some progress in! And, as you point out, the new Touring Tournament at CalTech comes from the unlikely source of the Division of the Humanities and Social Sciences. Now that has got to be a first! I do think that they add something entirely new and necessary, that isn't captured by the "The First Turing Test" for the The Loebner Prize. I think the new element of automated testing is a real plus for the competition and will tend to objectify the evaluation process and enhance the standards of the competition. Furthermore, it is an enhancement that probably even Touring himself might not have expected...the use of both, an algorithmic detector with an emulator. But more importantly, I think this sets the stage for ultimately asking what the real test for mimetic behaviors should be, especially given the larger goals of AGI. When I stop and ask myself...exactly what is being tested in a 'Touring test for mimetic behavior'?, I know my answers different for an AI system, say a chatbot, v. an AGI system, say a cognitive virtual player. Since I expect that the behaviors of an AGI system are of greater 1. breadth and 2. depth than an AI system, I would seek a different forum to test greater mimetic behaviors appropriately. Over the summer, I came to the conclusion that a more complete Touring test of an AGI system would involve a richer I/O environment, say a virtual world, and the ability to endow virtual characters in this I/O environment full cognitive abilities. In this sense, the Touring test of an AGI system becomes more of a test grounded in game play whereby everything from speech interaction to strategic interaction is tested in a human player v. virtual player (computer). The game play than becomes the basis of the judgment on the virtual player (computer)'s ability to mimic human players. Just my $0.02 worth. EGHeflin PS: Please excuse the slight out of sequence submission...but, I'm just getting caught up with things after a bit of R&R in the sunshine state! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Damien Sullivan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 10:20 PM Subject: [agi] Turing Tournament > Hey, look what my alma mater is up to. The Humanities and Social Sciences > department, no less. Although it was common for undergrads to be in economics > experiments, and this 'test' looks pretty similar. No hard language stuff. > > http://turing.ssel.caltech.edu/ > > -xx- Damien X-) > > ------- > To unsubscribe, change your address, or temporarily deactivate your subscription, > please go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?[EMAIL PROTECTED] > ------- To unsubscribe, change your address, or temporarily deactivate your subscription, please go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?[EMAIL PROTECTED]
