Alan, Checking back through the archives, I find that your offensive posts to this list have all involved comments about Eliezer Yudkowsky.
Please, in future posts, simply do not refer to Eliezer at all, directly or indirectly. I'm sure you can find plenty of other things to talk about. I know your feelings on the topic are strong, but nearly none of the other people on this list want to hear them. In my view, the Singularity Institute for AI has nothing in common with religious cults. In fact, while Eliezer has aroused the interest and admiration of many, so far as I know he has accumulated very few "followers" even in an intellectual sense, let alone a cultish sense. Having an extreme perspective relative to the norm does not make one cult-leader-like. Sheesh.... Let's get back to talking about interesting stuff, please!! -- Ben > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On > Behalf Of Alan Grimes > Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 3:47 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [agi] Re: [META] Moderation warning. > > > Ben Goertzel wrote: > > you really test my tolerance as list moderator. > > My appologies. > > > Please, please, no personal insults. And no anti-Semitism or racism of > > any kind. > > ACK. > > > I guess that your reference to Eliezer as "the rabbi" may have been > > meant as amusing, > > It is not at all amusing, nor was it intended to be. I have chosen to > refer to him as the rabbi in all contexts for the purpose of drawing > attention to the cultish nature of the singularity institute for > artificial intelligence. I also tend to refer to his friendly AI as > Yahweh for the same reason. > > I stand by my usage by the definition of the term: > > ... "A jew qualified to expound and apply the halakah and other jewish > law." > > Lets update it: > > A [place preferred appellation here] qualified to expound > and apply the > theory of friendliness and other moral codes [to AGI]. > > It fits almost perfectly. The other two parts of the definition work > very well when applied to him and his sheepish following. > > > but as a person of Jewish descent who experienced plenty of > > anti-Semitism in his youth, I didn't find it all that hilarious, > > really... > > I wasn't aware. I should not say anything else on this subject. > > > If you don't find a certain list thread interesting, by all means use > > your DELETE key. I've found this thread on AIXI reasonably > > stimulating, personally. > > I did too. I just find his very verbose and low-density writing style > annoying. The other part of the thread is how everyone uses the > terminology of morality -- A concept that only exists in a > puritanical/fundamentalist religeous context. It is utterly meaningless > in any other context. > > The idea of goals is not so abhorant but still has the fundamental flaw > of not being applicable to general intelligence in any meaningful way. > The entire approach that it suggests is that it focuses only on one tiny > subsystem of human cognitive function and neglects the vast aparatus > which orchistrates our behavior. I have been thinking about writing a > post to discuss and promote an engineering approach to AGI... =\ > > -- > I WANT A DEC ALPHA!!! =) > 21364: THE UNDISPUTED GOD OF ALL CPUS. > http://users.rcn.com/alangrimes/ > [if rcn.com doesn't work, try erols.com ] > > ------- > To unsubscribe, change your address, or temporarily deactivate > your subscription, > please go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?[EMAIL PROTECTED] > ------- To unsubscribe, change your address, or temporarily deactivate your subscription, please go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?[EMAIL PROTECTED]
