----- Original Message ----- From: "Ben Goertzel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED] Listbox. Com" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 9:10 AM Subject: [agi] Loebner prize
> > A funny article... > > > http://www.salon.com/tech/feature/2003/02/26/loebner_part_one/index.html > > Ben, Thanks for the link. I'd be interested to see how the Turing Tournament @ Caltech plays out v. the Loebner Prize. Although with Caltech's top prize money of 2x$10,000 v. Loebner's top prize money of $100,100, I would think that the Loebner Prize will reign preeminent for it's longevity. But at the very least, Caltech seems to indicate that Loebner's contest is academically, and monetarily, worth taking more seriously. Beyond that I don't think anything will match the saga of the Loebner Prize vis-a-vis its plot, intrique, and ostentatious bravado...a quasi academic brawl. I admire Loebner for his chutzpah and specifically the exchanges with Minsky; as Loebner puts one over on him - which takes some doing ;-) >In article < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes .... >>17.The names "Loebner Prize" and "Loebner Prize Competition" may be used by >>contestants in advertising only by advance written permissionof the Cambridge >>Center, and their use may be subjecttoapplicableicensingfees. Advertising is >>subjecttoapprovalbyrepresentativesoftheLoebner Prize Competition.Improper or >>misleading advertising may result in revocationoftheprizeand/or other actions. >[Some words concatenated to enforce the 80-character line length >convention.] >I do hope that someone will volunteer to violate this proscription so >that Mr. Loebner will indeed revoke his stupid prize, save himself >some money, and spare us the horror of this obnoxious and unproductive >annual publicity campaign. >In fact, I hereby offer the $100.00 Minsky prize to the first person >who gets Loebner to do this. I will explain the details of the rules >for the new prize as soon as it is awarded, except that, in the >meantime, anyone is free to use the name "Minsky Loebner Prize >Revocation Prize" in any advertising they like, without any licensing >fee. 1. Marvin Minsky will pay $100.00 to anyone who gets me to "revoke" the "stupid" Loebner Prize. 2. "Revoke" the prize means "discontinue" the prize. 3. After the Grand Prize is won, the contest will be discontinued. 4. The Grand Prize winner will "get" me to discontinue the Prize. 5. The Grand Prize winner will satisfy The Minsky Prize criterion. 6. Minsky will be morally obligated to pay the Grand Prize Winner $100.00 for getting me to discontinue the contest. 7. Minsky is an honorable man. 8. Minsky will pay the Grand Prize Winner $100.00 9. Def: "Co-sponsor": Anyone who contributes or promises to contribute a monetary prize to the Grand Prize winner . 10. Marvin Minskey is a co-sponsor of the 1995 Loebner Prize Contest. ------------- BTW The language that Minsky finds so offensive was added by the Prize Committee because of a possible mis-representation regarding the contest made by an annual prize winner. No fees have been requested of any winner, nor do I anticipate of any fees ever being requested. Rule 17 merely protects the Loebner Prize from misrepresentation in advertising. > ------- > To unsubscribe, change your address, or temporarily deactivate your subscription, > please go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > ------- To unsubscribe, change your address, or temporarily deactivate your subscription, please go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
