Mentifex, Thanks for the entertaining post!
However, I personally consider it a bit of an overreaction ;-) Dubya is not my favorite US President; however, in all probability, who is or isn't the leader of one particular country in 2004 is unlikely to have a large effect on the future of mind in the universe. Obviously, humanity is on a path of rapidly accelerating technological advancement; and, mostly likely, we're either going to kill ourselves or transcend ourselves by our technology, sometime during the next century. AGI technology itself could be used to help annihilate the human race or to help transcend it. One thing I agree with Eliezer Yudkowsky on is: Worrying about how to increase the odds of AGI, nanotech and biotech saving rather than annihilating the human race, is much more worthwhile than worrying about who is President of the US. -- Ben G -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Arthur T. Murray Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 10:13 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [agi] Re: AI boxing On Fri, 17 Sep 2004, Ben Goertzel wrote: > [...] > In short, it really makes no sense to create an AI, allow it to > indirectly affect human affairs, and then make an absolute decision > to keep it in a box. > > And it also makes no sense to create an AI and not allow it > to affect human affairs at all, under any circumstances. > This is a waste of resources. > > So creating an AI-BOX may be a useful interim strategy and > conceivably a useful long-term strategy, but it's not something > we should expect to count on absolutely. > > Thus I suggest that we spend our time discussing something else ;-) > > -- Ben G Okay, let's change topics; gee, Ben G, let's change to a better forum ;-) Let's discuss the Bush Election Suicide Protest Movement and the potentiality of having to go underground to work on creating AI or the idea of committing suicide if the Cocainer-in-Chief is re-elected. "In a worst-case scenario, on 2 November 2004 the American people have elected the Cocainer-in-Chief to be their president for Four More Wars. A military draft has been rushed back into place for young American males, who must now take up the cause of murdering Iraqi citizens in their own Iraqi homeland. Planeloads of coffins have brought thousands of dead American boys home to their parents, who voted for the death of their own sons. Mothers in America and Iraq spoon-feed their wounded sons who have lost multiple severed limbs and will never again have the body parts necessary for the simple act of raising food to their lips. America is awash with crazy veterans who commit random acts of unkind violence for decades on end. America the beautiful has become America the living nightmare. Mentifex, the user `mindmaker` q.v. here on Sourceforge, has committed suicide or has gone underground to work secretly on artificial intelligence for `los pobres de la tierra` and not for the corporate America that celebrates the ill-gotten gains of plundered Iraqi oil. If Mentifex is dead, your donation here is no longer necessary. If there is still time, keep your money and donate your vote for decent candidates who do not bring shame upon all Americans by uttering foul-mouthed vulgarities as Cheney did on the hallowed floor of the United States Senate. Deep down, America was ashamed of Bush and Cheney, but unwilling to admit it. Mentifex was so ashamed of his own country that he could no longer bear to live in it. Your vote for Bush killed Mentifex. If you did not vote for Bush but too many others did, consider A) suicide; B) escape to another country; C) joining the AI underground; or D) a life of quiet desperation." ------- To unsubscribe, change your address, or temporarily deactivate your subscription, please go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ------- To unsubscribe, change your address, or temporarily deactivate your subscription, please go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
