>> Messing with robots is a pain!  Good robotic hardware is expensive, and

> Yes, but they work in realtime, and don't take any resources to render the
> reality -- of any complexity. There are standard platforms, too, which are
> cheap.

Agree. I'm not a AGI-SIM fan, though I'm interested in how far it can go. My
own plan is to get a simple robot after the next version of NARS --- which will
include temporal reasoning and procedural intepretation, both necessary for
sensorimotor.

>> I do find it interesting to think about how to translate complex sensor-data
>> into cognitive information.  I have a lot of ideas about how to do this
>> using Novamente.  But I have a feeling that one can get an AGI working
>> without giving it highly rich sensory inputs or highly flexible actuators.

> Strange, I have the exactly opposite feeling. Making sense from noisy,
> ambiguous data is what intelligence is all about. Abstract reasoning is a
> recent invention, and mounted upon that ancient chassis.

Disagree. The order in evolution is not necessarily a good one to follow
in the design of AGI. Also, "reasoning" is not necessarily "abstract". Instead,
"reasoning" can be generally understood as "to build new relations according
to the old ones by following certain patterns", and this understanding will, 
hopefully, unify high-level cognition and sensorimotor. In this sense, "reasoning"
can be used for "making sense from noisy, ambiguous data".

Pei

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