On Sun, Dec 18, 2005 at 05:12:45PM -0500, Ben Goertzel wrote:
> 
> By this same argument, we need this kind of computational power to
> create a pocket calculator.  Because, before pocket calculators were

A pocket calculator is a primitive system. You, Sir, are no pocket
calculator.

> built, the human brain was the only known system able to carry out
> complex arithmetic calculations...
> 
> AGI systems, via having radically different architectures from the
> human brain, may potentially make far more effective use of
> computational resources.

So give that you don't know how much the human brain does crunch
and how effectively it work, can you quantify "far more effective"?
And give the reationale behind that estimate?
 
> No, I don't expect skeptics to believe this --- but I don't see why
> the opposite argument (that human brain level compute power is needed
> for AGI) is any more convincing, based on the existing evidence...

So you have the evidence that a pocket calculator is enough for AGI?
Or that 5 MIPS is enough for AGI, as people in early 1980s have claimed?

So how much is just enough for AGI? Kurzweil likes to pull some
bogus numbers out of nowhere and offering no justifications. 
Would you agree that Kurzweil's numbers are enough?

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