Searching is a part of AI... But is not deep logic like Chess... Is IBM Deep Blue just a look up machine or really perceiving and logical reasoning with an output of action.. the next move. Of course, we do not know if people play chess well, we only know that some play better than others. Any AI worth its upkeep should be able to perceive, reason and act. of course these abilities will develop over a considerable amount of program design, development and implementation.
Supposedly any intelligence can be reapplied to the AI System and therefore benefit from its own success. Compounding over time will be the major part as the development continues. The higher the rate of learning will be most desirable. How those higher rates are obtained and kept moving to the next level is a most important technology. I do believe the Financial and Economics expert AI system will be of enormous value and one of the best performance test of any AI System. This should help fund any AI with a very abundant cash flow. Let the games begin... Dan Goe ---------------------------------------------------- >From : Charles D Hixson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To : [email protected] Subject : Re: [agi] Google aims for AGI (purportedly).. Performance is what counts.. Date : Sat, 14 Jan 2006 18:47:24 -0800 > It probably wouldn't do very well at such a test...no better than Delphi, say. > OTOH, how well do human experts in the field do on such tests? > > The question might be, how is it developed from a sophisticated Delphi+filter > system. The answer to that isn't obvious, and probably isn't singular. > > This approach looks like a natural one for Google to take, but you can bet > that other groups are taking other approaches. E.g., already biology people > are talking about modeling the methylization of DNA as a result of life > experiences. This will inevitably expand in multiple ways. One way (the one > I saw written up) was investigating, shades of lysenko, the heritability of > life experiences. Appearantly the grandsons along the paternal line of men > who started smoking before they were nine tend to be heavier than average, > and the suspected cause is heritable methylization of DNA. But this will > inevitably expand to tracking molecular changes throughout the body in > response to experiences. Including the mind. This will probably tackled by > some successor of Blue Gene (my wild guess!). > > Then there are the groups intentionally setting out to create a human scale > AI, with creating the AI as the main goal, and what they are creating it for > as secondary. > > Then there are the groups searching for ways to send messages without being > detected (and to detect any such attempts). Some of these command an immense > range of resources, and I can easily envision an awareness (inadvertently?) > developing out of that arms race, though it would probably be a late entry, > and as such not show up until it would result in a hard take-off. > > There are many endeavors in process that look to me as if they might > eventually result in an AI. In many of them it would be an unplanned > accident. In almost all of those scenarios it would be delayed until the > result was a hard take-off. It wouldn't always be designed to have much > interest in the welfare of humans. But sometimes it would. > > Presumably the Google attempt would result in a very slow take-off, as the > original AI wouldn't be all that intelligent, but merely very fast at > searching, and it would be relatively well disposed towards people. At least > it would want to answer their questions. This could be one of the more > hopeful scenarios. I wish it well, and hope the designers read Friendly AI. > > On Saturday 14 January 2006 05:00 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Do you think the Google AGI entity would answer if you ask "what stocks > > are going up tomorrow and with what level of accuracy or probability"? > > How about asking where and when the big earthquake will hit in California. > > Gauging AI's performance is going to be one of the major test of AI. > > > > Dan Goe > > ---------------------------------------------------- > > From : Ben Goertzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To : [email protected] > > Subject : Re: [agi] Google aims for AGI (purportedly) > > Date : Sat, 14 Jan 2006 17:15:20 -0500 > > > > > Peter Norvig (one of Google's AI leaders) shed some light onto this at > > > his talk at the ACC05 conference. > > > > > > What he alluded to there was a goal, in 5+ years from how, of having a > > > system that can answer any natural language query whose answer exists > > > somewhere on the Internet. > > > > > > E.g. if asked "Who was the first President of the US" it would answer > > > "George Washington" because somewhere there is a web page with a > > > sentence such as "George Washington, the first President of the United > > > States, blah blah." > > > > > > This would be Step 1. He didn't talk about it, but it's obvious the > > > next step would be something that could answer questions whose answers > > > are not contained on any single Web page. > > > > > > This is not exactly a direct approach at AGI in the sense that it has > > > no focus on self-understanding, creativity, and so forth. However, I > > > can see how proceeding in this direction could in time create a system > > > that could (with appropriate expenditure of additional effort) be > > > turned into an AGI. > > > > > > -- Ben > > > > > > On 1/13/06, Martin Striz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On 1/13/06, Eugen Leitl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > http://www.economist.com/business/displaystory.cfm?story_id=5382048 > > > > > > > > > > "But some people think they detect an even more grandiose design. > > > > Google is already working on a massive and global computing grid. > > Eventually, says Mr Saffo, .they're trying to build the machine that will > > pass the Turing test..<< > > > > > > The New Turing Test will be the ability to detect spam as obviously as > > > > a human mind. :) > > > > > > > > Martin > > > > > > > > ------- > > > > To unsubscribe, change your address, or temporarily deactivate your > > > > subscription, > > > > > > please go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > ------- > > > To unsubscribe, change your address, or temporarily deactivate your > > > > subscription, > > > > > please go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > ------- > > To unsubscribe, change your address, or temporarily deactivate your > > subscription, please go to > > http://v2.listbox.com/member/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ------- > To unsubscribe, change your address, or temporarily deactivate your subscription, > please go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ------- To unsubscribe, change your address, or temporarily deactivate your subscription, please go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
