As Eric Baum noted, in his book "What Is Thought?" he did not in fact
define intelligence or understanding as compression, but rather made a
careful argument as to why he believes compression is an essential
aspect of intelligence and understanding. You really have not
addressed his argument in your posts, IMO.
I think that we need to be very careful and *always* distinguish between
lossy compression and lossless compression since they really are two very
different things.
I believe that at least one of the two forms of compression is an essential
aspect of intelligence and understanding.
I also believe that, with our real world constraints, that lossless
compression is not necessary and, furthermore, *massively* raises the
computing requirements (among others) for human-level intelligence (or
realistically, greater than human level intelligence since we can't do
lossless compression).
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ben Goertzel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <agi@v2.listbox.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 3:15 PM
Subject: Re: Re: [agi] A question on the symbol-system hypothesis
"Rings" and "Models" are appropriated terms, but the mathematicians
involved would never be so stupid as to confuse them with the real
things. Marcus Hutter and yourself are doing precisely that.
I rest my case.
Richard Loosemore
IMO these analogies are not fair.
The mathematical notion of a "ring" is not intended to capture
essential aspects of the commonsense notion of a "ring." It is merely
chosen because a certain ring-like-ness characterizes the mathematical
structure in question...
On the other hand, the notions of "intelligence" and "understanding"
and so forth being bandied about on this list obviously ARE intended
to capture essential aspects of the commonsense notions that share the
same word with them.
As Eric Baum noted, in his book "What Is Thought?" he did not in fact
define intelligence or understanding as compression, but rather made a
careful argument as to why he believes compression is an essential
aspect of intelligence and understanding. You really have not
addressed his argument in your posts, IMO.
Ben
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