On Wed, Mar 14, 2007 at 09:12:55AM -0400, Ben Goertzel wrote: > > It is a trite point, but I can't help repeating that, given how very > little we know about the > brain's deeper workings, these estimates of the brain's computational
Not to belabor the point, but the objections about how little we know about neuroscience typically come from AI folks, who, frankly are not particularly versed in the matter. So I'd take my Koch or my Markram over Kurzweil any time. > and memory capability > are all kinda semi-useless... My point precisely. People love throwing around such numbers, so I threw some in which are a bit at the high range, to see whether they will be dismissed off hand. People love to quote Moore, so why this sudden lack of "we only need X doublings to go there"? Mightily curious. > I think that brain-inspired AGI may become very interesting in 5-20 > years once neuroscience > has advanced substantially. At that point quantitative estimates of If you have the structure, you can crunch things from first principles. At the low level of theory the problem is well-understood. Do you have a well-understood low-level theory of generic AI? Or *any* theory at all? > neural computing power > may also be meaningful! > >http://www.amazon.com/Biophysics-Computation-Information-Computational-Neuroscience/dp/0195181999/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/104-7341035-9436725?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1173876708&sr=8-1 > >http://www.amazon.com/o/ASIN/0262681080/ref=s9_asin_image_2/104-7341035-9436725 I would really recommend that as many list subscribers who can afford the time (they're cheap) to read these two books. -- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org";>leitl</a> http://leitl.org ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.ativel.com 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE ----- This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: http://v2.listbox.com/member/?list_id=303
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