> From: Benjamin Goertzel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> IMO, proceeding with AGI development using formal-language input
> rather than NL input is **not** necessarily a bad approach.
> 
> However, one downside is that your incremental steps toward AGI, in
> this approach, will not be very convincing to skeptics.
> 
> Another downside is that in this approach it's easier to fool yourself
> that you're really making progress when you're not...
> 
> For me to be convinced a formal-language-based AI system was a real
> step along the path to AGI, I'd have to know something about the
> internals of the system and assess it in that context.
> 
> Formal-language-based interaction certainly lends itself to "cheating"
> (i.e. brittle approaches that won't be able to deal with the nasty
> richness and noisiness of real language or the real world), but this
> doesn't mean every formal-language-interaction-based system will
> **necessarily** be based on "cheating"...
> 
> Inevitably, the interpretation of partial results is always based on
> some theoretical framework....  So assessments of incremental progress
> will never be very objective.
> 
> For instance, whether or not creating model rockets zooming 200 feet
> in the air counts as evidence that one is on the path to space-bound
> rocketry, depends on one's theoretical framework...
> 

How does one go about checking during the development process whether or not
a formal-language input based AGI is working or not? It has to interface
with the real world in some way at some point as there will be the noisy
stuff either in NL or something else. BUT saving that for later has its
advantages as you can get bogged down dealing with the noise. Building up
the AGI in a perfect world as best as possible may take it farther. Really
though NL input is filtered at some layer... or is it... do you take the NL
right down into the core? Guess it depends on the design.

John



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