> From: Jef Allbright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > 2) It is based on Sequential Interaction Machines, rather than > > Multi-Stream Interaction Machines, which means it might lose out on > > expressiveness as talked about here. > > > > http://www.cs.brown.edu/people/pw/papers/bcj1.pdf > > I began to read the paper, but it was mostly incomprehensible to me. > The terms and grammar were legitimate, but I couldn't translate the > claims to any workable model of reality -- I actually expected to see > Sokal mentioned as co-author -- but upon googling I found the > following paper in response, which in comparison was quite > comprehensible. > > <http://www.macs.hw.ac.uk/~greg/publications/cm.cj07.pdf> > > I'd be interested in knowing whether (and how) you think the response > paper gets it wrong. >
Hi, If I may comment here on this as it involves some stuff that I'm looking into. I like the Wegner/Goldin paper for its writing style - like a stream of consciousness, very energetic and rich - and it goes somewhat in the direction I'm looking into. The response paper is OK but I just quickly scanned it. Both have a lot of excess verbiage interesting or not. The way I see it - OOP is too limited. So if you are building a big project like AGI you need to extend or build on top of an existing language - c++ or whatever. So I'm looking into and may pursue, depending on how much time I can afford to sacrifice (flush?), taking OOP and merging it with Group theory and category theory algebraics, throwing in automata, and throwing in complexity while basically making MIM and SIM act as one. Why? How else will the chips fall? OOP is maxed out but required. Automata is needed for MIM, and you REALLY need MIM for server-ish stuff. Complexity is unavoidable. I already have some basics of merging OOP and Group/Category Theory. Am working on some ideas on jamming, or I should say intertwining automata in that. The complexity integration still trying to figure out... trying to stay as far from uncomputable as possible :) So... just my blurb... Some of the more general perspective, big picture stuff both papers were trying to argue I kind of ignored taking the ground up perspective. John ----- This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: http://v2.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244&id_secret=63787188-1940d2
