On Nov 12, 2007 2:41 PM, Mark Waser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> It is NOT clear that Novamente documentation is NOT enabling, or could > not be made enabling, with, say, one man year of work. Strong argument > could be made both ways. > > I believe that Ben would argue that Novamente documentation is NOT > enabling even with one man-year of work. Ben? There is still way to much > *research* work to be done. >
I'm not really familiar with this terminology, and don't have time to study it right now. > > >> But the standard for non-enablement is very arguably weaker than not > requiring a miracle. It would be more like "not requiring a leap of > creativity that is outside the normal skill of talented PhDs trained in > related fields". > Yes. I believe that completion of NM does not require any leaps of creativity outside the normal skill of talented PhD's trained in related fields. > Ask Ben how much actual work has been done on activation control in > very large, very sparse atom spaces in Novamente. He'll tell you that it's > a project for when he's further along. > In this regard you are a bit out of date, Mark, due to your lack of recent contact w/ the NM project. In 2005 we did some testing of NM attention allocation mechanisms w/ millions of nodes and hundreds of millions of links, derived from NLP parsing and quantitative data mining. More recently I did some smaller-scale testing of similar (but better) mechanisms in a Ruby prototype, but this code is not yet ported into the main C++ codebase. This was all researchy stuff done with throwaway code just to see how the math worked on large AtomTables. But testing these mechanisms in isolation is not that informative -- they seem to work, but the real test will be seeing how they work in combination with large-scale inference and evolutionary learning, and we're not ready for that yet, due to incompleteness of the PLN and MOSES codebases relative to the respective designs. -- Ben ----- This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: http://v2.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244&id_secret=64260364-265a64
