I believe that a polynomial solution to the Logical Satisifiability problem 
will have a major effect on AI, and I would like to discuss that at sometime.

Jim Bromer

Richard Loosemore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

This thread has nothing to do with artificial general intelligence:  is 
there not a more appropriate venue for it?



Richard Loosemore


Jim Bromer wrote:
> */Robin Gane-McCalla /* wrote: Can you give 
> me an example of any such problems (or a class of such problems)? By the 
> definition of NP-complete, any problem in NP must be reducible to any 
> problem in NP through a polynomial transformation.
> ---------------------------------------------------------
> It took me a while to figure this one out.  I was using the term np as a 
> measure of the time (or time-data space) for computational processes and 
> it was not very precise as such.  However,  the definition of np is more 
> precise which is why your comment forced me to think about it.
> 
> I was just trying to point out that even if a np-complete program was 
> proven to be solvable in p-time, there still would be problems that 
> would take much longer to solve.  And some of them might look like 
> np-complete problems to the casual onlooker.
> 
> For instance the SAT problem asks only if a certain logical formula has 
> a solution (that is, a True solution).  At this time, in the worse case 
> the solution to this problem for n variables could take more than 2^n 
> 'steps' to complete, which is the same time it would take to try every 
> possible combination of  logical (True or False) values in the formula.
> 
> Let's say that a method (might as well say my method) produces a 
> solution to the SAT problem where even the worse cases can be determined 
> in polynomial time.
> 
> Now let's say that the problem is not to determine whether or not there 
> is a solution or not, but to output every possible combination of values 
> for a logical formula and give the logical result as well.  Since there 
> are 2^n combinations for a formula of n distinct logical variables, the 
> output would have to take more than 2^n 'steps'.  So even supposing the 
> np-complete problem could be solved in polynomial time, there are still 
> problems that cannot be completed in polynomial time.
> 
> Interestingly, if a polynomial time solution to the SAT problem was 
> found, it might be possible to output a couple of formulas that could 
> define all of the true and all of the false combinations without 
> distinctly outputting every one separately.  However, the problem I 
> defined above specifically called for each possible combination to be 
> output and therefore it cannot be solved in polynomial time -by 
> definition-.  This is a trivial example, but it shows that there are 
> problems that cannot be solved in polynomial time, and because this 
> problem has something in common with the np-complete problem of 
> Satisfiability, some people might be confused by the problem.
> Jim Bromer
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