So Ben, based on what you are saying, you fully expect them to fail their 
Turing test?

Eric B. Ramsay

Ben Goertzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I know Selmer and his group pretty 
well...

It is well done stuff, but it is purely hard-coded-knowledge-based
logical inference --
there is no real learning there...

It's not so hard to get impressive-looking functionality in toy demo
tasks, by hard-
coding rules and using a decent logic engine

Others have failed at this, so his achievement is worthwhile and means his logic
engine and formalism are better than most ... but still ... IMO, this
is not a very likely
path to AGI ...

-- Ben

On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 10:30 AM, Ed Porter  wrote:
> Here is an article about RPI's attempt to pass a slightly modified version
>  of the turning test using supercomputers to power their "Rascals" AI
>  algorithm.
>
>  http://www.eetimes.com/news/latest/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=206903246&pri
>  ntable=true
>
>  The one thing I didn't understand was that they said their "Rascals" AI
>  algorithm used a theorem proving architectures.  I would assume that that
>  would mean it as based on binary logic, and thus would not be sufficiently
>  flexible to model many human thought processes, which are almost certainly
>  more neural net-like, and thus much more probabilistic.
>
>  Does anybody have any opinions on that.
>
>  Ed Porter
>
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