Concerning beliefs and scientific rationalism: Beliefs are the basis
of all thought.  To imply that religious belief might be automatically
different from rational beliefs is naïve.  However, I think there is
an advantage in defining what a rational thought is realitve to AI
programming and how scientific rationalism is different from simple
rationalism.  I am going to write a few messages about this when I get
a chance.

I'm just finishing off a paper for the AAAI Fall BICA Symposium where I effectively argue that religious belief is a rational drive common to all goal-seeking entities. I don't (by any means) hit people in the face with that exact statement but it's plainly evident from what I do write. Far too many people have been tainted/turned-off by the irrational over-believers and now instinctively throw the baby out with the bathwater whenever religion comes up (Richard Dawkins, I'm looking at you :-). People need to look at what some of the more rational religious leaders are saying (the Dalai Lama being an *excellent* case in point with his hard-core support for the scientific investigation of meditation and other subjects).

What do you perceive as the difference/distinction between scientific rationalism and simple rationalism? I don't perceive them as being different at all.


----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Bromer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 2:38 PM
Subject: [agi] Logical Satisfiability...Get used to it.


Ben G wrote: >>

FWIW, I wasn't joking about your algorithm's putative
divine inspiration in my role as moderator, but rather in my role
as individual list participant ;-)

Sorry that my sense of humor got on your nerves. I've had that effect
on people before!

Really though: if you're going to post messages in forums populated
by scientific rationalists, claiming divine inspiration for your ideas, you
really gotta expect **at minimum** some good-natured ribbing... !!!!!
-- Ben G
<<

I appreciate the fact that you did not intend your comments to be mean
spirited and that you were speaking as a participant not as the
moderator.  I also appreciate the fact that Wasser realized that I
misunderstood his comment and made that clear.

I have annoyed quite a few people myself.  I am a little too critical
at times, but my criticisms are usually intended to provoke a deeper
examination an idea of some kind.  (I only rarely use criticism as a
tool of wanton destruction!)

Concerning beliefs and scientific rationalism: Beliefs are the basis
of all thought.  To imply that religious belief might be automatically
different from rational beliefs is naïve.  However, I think there is
an advantage in defining what a rational thought is realitve to AI
programming and how scientific rationalism is different from simple
rationalism.  I am going to write a few messages about this when I get
a chance.

By the way, I don't really see how a simple n^4 or n^3 SAT solver in
itself would be that useful for any immediate AGI project, but the
novel logical methods that the solver will reveal may be more
significant.

Jim Bromer

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