Russell:quite a few very smart people
(myself among them) have tried hard to design something that could
enhance its intelligence divorced from the real world, and all such
attempts have failed. Obviously I can't _prove_ the impossibility of this - in the same way
that I can't prove the impossibility of summoning demons by chanting
the right phrases in Latin; you can always say, well maybe there's
some incantation nobody has yet tried.

Oh yes, it can be proven. It requires an extended argument to do so properly, which I won't attempt here.

But it all comes down, if you think about it, to different forms of sign/representation. The AGI-ers who think knowledge can be superaccelerated are almost exclusively talking about knowledge in the form of symbols - logical, mathematical, linguistic.

When you or I talk about gathering evidence and personal experience, we are talking about knowledge gathered in the form of sensory images - and I am also talking about "embodied" images - which involve your whole body (that's what mirror neurons are referring to - when you mimic someone or something, you do it with your whole body, not just your senses).

The proof lies in the direction of thinking of the world as consisting of "bodies" - and then asking: what can and can't the different kinds of sign: symbols - words/numbers/ algebraic-logical variables, - and then image schemas - geometric figures etc. and then images - sensory/ photographs/movies/ etc - tell you and show you of bodies?

Each form of sign/representation has strictly v. limited powers , and can only show certain dimensions of bodies. All the symbols and schemas in existence cannot tell you what Russell Wallace or Vladimir Nesov look like - i.e. cannot show you their distinctive, individual bodies. Only images (or, if you like, "evidence") can do that - and do it in a second. (And that can be proven, scientifically). And since the real world consists, in the final analysis, of nothing but individual bodies like Russell and Vlad, each of which are different from each other - even that ipod over there is actually different from this ipod here, - then you'd better have images if you want to be intelligent about the real world of real individuals, and be able to deal with all their idiosyncrasies - or make fresh generalisations about them.

Which is why evolution went to the extraordinary trouble of founding real AGI's on the continuous set of moving images we call consciousness - in order to be able to deal with the real world of individuals, and not just the rational world of abstract general classes, we call logic, maths and language.*

But, as I said, this requires an extended argument to demonstrate properly. But, yes, it can be proven.

*In case that's confusing, language and logic can refer to individuals like "Russell Wallace" - but only in general terms. They can't show what distinguishes those individuals.







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