Richard and Ed,
"Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different
results." - Albert Einstein
"Prelude to insanity: unintentionally doing the same thing over and over again
and getting the same results." - Me
Cheers,
Brad
Richard Loosemore wrote:
Ed Porter wrote:
I do not claim the software architecture for AGI has been totally solved.
But I believe that enough good AGI approaches exist (and I think
Novamente
is one) that when powerful hardware available to more people we will
be able
to relatively quickly get systems up and running that demonstrate the
parts
of the problems we have solved. And that will provide valuable
insights and
test beds for solving the parts of the problem that we have not yet
solved.
You are not getting my point. What you just said was EXACTLY what was
said in 1970, 1971, 1972, 1973 ......2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007 ......
And every time it was said, the same justification for the claim was
given: "I just have this belief that it will work".
Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme fubar.
With regard to your statement "the problem is understanding HOW TO DO IT"
---
WE DO UNDERSTAND HOW TO DO IT --- NOT ALL OF IT --- AND NOT HOW TO
MAKE IT
ALL WORK TOGETHER WELL AUTOMATICALLY --- BUT --- GIVEN THE TYPE OF
HARDWARE
EXPECTED TO COST LESS THAN $3M IN 6 YEARS --- WE KNOW HOW TO BUILD
MUCH OF
IT --- ENOUGH THAT WE COULD PROVIDE EXTREMELY VALUABLE COMPUTERS WITH OUR
CURRENT UNDERSTANDINGS.
You do *not* understand how to do it. But I have to say that statements
like your paragraph above are actually very good for my health, because
their humor content is right up there in the top ten, along with Eddie
Izzard's Death Star Canteen sketch and Stephen Colbert at the 2006 White
House Correspondents' Association Dinner.
So long as the general response to the complex systems problem is not
"This could be a serious issue, let's put our heads together to
investigate it", but "My gut feeling is that this is just not going to
be a problem", or "Quit rocking the boat!", you can bet that nobody
really wants to ask any questions about whether the approaches are
correct, they just want to be left alone to get on with their
approaches. History, I think, will have some interesting things to say
about all this.
Good luck anyway.
Richard Loosemore
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