Will,

--- On Fri, 7/11/08, William Pearson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Purpose and goal are not intrinsic to systems. 

I agree this is true with designed systems. The designed system is ultimately 
an extension of the designer's mind, wherein lies the purpose. Of course, as 
you note, the system in question can serve multiple purposes, each of which 
lies in the mind of some other observer. The same is true of your system, even 
though its behavior may evolve. Your button is what tethers its purpose to your 
mind.

On the other hand, we can create simulations in which purpose is truly 
emergent. To support emergence our design must support large-scale, (global) 
interactions of locally specified entities. Conway's Game of Life is an example 
of such a system - what is its purpose? It certainly wasn't specified. The 
simplest answer is probably that it has none. But what if our design of the 
local level was a little more interesting, such that at the global level, we 
would eventually see self-sustaining entities that reproduced, competed for 
resources, evolved, etc, and became more complex over a large number of 
iterations?  

Whether that's possible is another matter, but assuming for the moment it was, 
the purpose of that system could be defined in roughly the same way as trying 
to define the purpose of life itself. So unless you believe that life was 
designed by God (in which case the purpose of life would lie in the mind of 
God), the purpose of the system is indeed intrinsic to the system itself.

Terren


      


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