On 8/9/08, Ben Goertzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Thanks rick ... I replied there as follows > > > *** > A bunch of classifiers is not an artificial general intelligence. A > human-level mind (or beyond) requires a systematic cognitive architecture, > it's not going to emerge out of a heterogenous, quasi-random soup of > mind-components. This is a naive theory of cognitive science, I would argue. > > For a careful, systematic design for an advanced AI system, see > http://opencog.org/wiki/OpenCogPrime, which is associated with the > open-source AI project opencog.org > > Anyway, I'm probably one of the biggest optimists in the AI research > community, but in my view the idea in this post represents "way over the > top" optimism based on a naive view of how mind works. > > Given a mature version of an AI system built according to an overall AI > architecture like OpenCog, then maybe people writing little "mind modules" > as you suggest could make sense. But the Internet just is not a "mind > operating system." > > I wrote about what would need to be done to turn the net into more of a > mind-OS in my 2001 book "Creating Internet Intelligence" (Plenum Press). At > the high level I don't think this is a bad idea. But again, brains are not > just soups of heterogenous processes -- the right high-level cognitive > architecture is required. > > -- Ben Goertzel ... novamente.net agiri.org singinst.org goertzel.org > opencog.org > **** > > On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 1:01 PM, rick the ponderer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > >> There was a brief post on a possible path to agi at >> http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=271202 >> yesterday. Essentially it involves masses of people creating binary >> classifiers in a economic market system, similar to how content is created >> on the web today (though with a micropayment system rather than advertising >> supported model). >> ------------------------------ >> *agi* | Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> >> <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/> | >> Modify<https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;>Your >> Subscription<http://www.listbox.com> >> > > > > -- > Ben Goertzel, PhD > CEO, Novamente LLC and Biomind LLC > Director of Research, SIAI > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > "Nothing will ever be attempted if all possible objections must be first > overcome " - Dr Samuel Johnson > > > ------------------------------ > *agi* | Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> > <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/> | > Modify<https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;>Your > Subscription<http://www.listbox.com> > I'm trying to draw a parallel between how content on the web is being created and how an artificial mind might be created. If you sat down at tried to engineer a giant encyclopedia within one company/community, you would end up with britannica (within one company), and wikipedia (within a community of enthusiasts), However, the web at large is much larger than both of these because of the economic incentives for people to create articles. Many people try and fail (in effect working for free), but the progress is rapid, as in evolution. In the same way, incentivizing people to produce classifiers would have the similar effect of rapid progress.
If you think of intelligence as being the ability to predict accurately, having a giant web of classifiers that predict accurately could be construed as a form of artificial general intelligence, or a human type artificial intelligence. Having an enough data about the world, because you have created many classifiers that can recognize the semantic events in video and speech, would allow you to make all the same types of recognitions and predictions that a human would make. ------------------------------------------- agi Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244&id_secret=108809214-a0d121 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
