I got it from an internal source. Pei
On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 8:24 PM, Brad Paulsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Pei, > > Would you mind sharing the link (that is, if you found it on the Internet)? > > Thanks, > Brad > > Pei Wang wrote: >> >> I found the paper. >> >> As I guessed, their update operator is defined on the whole >> probability distribution function, rather than on a single probability >> value of an event. I don't think it is practical for AGI --- we cannot >> afford the time to re-evaluate every belief on each piece of new >> evidence. Also, I haven't seen a convincing argument on why an >> intelligent system should follow the ME Principle. >> >> Also this paper doesn't directly solve my example, because it doesn't >> use second-order probability. >> >> Pei >> >> On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 10:13 PM, Ben Goertzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> The approach in that paper doesn't require any special assumptions, and >>> could be applied to your example, but I don't have time to write up an >>> explanation of how to do the calculations ... you'll have to read the >>> paper >>> yourself if you're curious ;-) >>> >>> That approach is not implemented in PLN right now but we have debated >>> integrating it with PLN as in some ways it's subtler than what we >>> currently >>> do in the code... >>> >>> ben >>> >>> On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 10:02 PM, Pei Wang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I didn't know this paper, but I do know approaches based on the >>>> principle of maximum/optimum entropy. They usually requires much more >>>> information (or assumptions) than what is given in the following >>>> example. >>>> >>>> I'd be interested to know what the solution they will suggest for such >>>> a situation. >>>> >>>> Pei >>>> >>>> On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 9:53 PM, Ben Goertzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Think about a concrete example: if from one source the system gets >>>>>> P(A-->B) = 0.9, and P(P(A-->B) = 0.9) = 0.5, while from another source >>>>>> P(A-->B) = 0.2, and P(P(A-->B) = 0.2) = 0.7, then what will be the >>>>>> conclusion when the two sources are considered together? >>>>> >>>>> There are many approaches to this within the probabilistic framework, >>>>> one of which is contained within this paper, for example... >>>>> >>>>> http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=16174172 >>>>> >>>>> (I have a copy of the paper but I'm not sure where it's available for >>>>> free online ... if anyone finds it please post the link... thx) >>>>> >>>>> Ben >>>>> ________________________________ >>>>> agi | Archives | Modify Your Subscription >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------- >>>> agi >>>> Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now >>>> RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ >>>> Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?&; >>>> Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Ben Goertzel, PhD >>> CEO, Novamente LLC and Biomind LLC >>> Director of Research, SIAI >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> "Nothing will ever be attempted if all possible objections must be first >>> overcome " - Dr Samuel Johnson >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> agi | Archives | Modify Your Subscription >> >> >> ------------------------------------------- >> agi >> Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now >> RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ >> Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?&; >> Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com >> > > > ------------------------------------------- > agi > Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now > RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ > Modify Your Subscription: > https://www.listbox.com/member/?&; > Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com > ------------------------------------------- agi Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244&id_secret=114414975-3c8e69 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
