Brad,
> > But, human intelligence is not the only general intelligence we can imagine > or create. IMHO, we can get to human-beneficial, non-human-like (but, > still, human-inspired) general intelligence much quicker if, at least for > AGI 1.0, we avoid the twin productivity sinks of NLU and embodiment. > > In the end, of course, both or us really have only our opinions. You can't > prove the OCP approach, novel though it may be, will, finally, crack the > elusive NLU problem. I can't prove it won't. I, agree, therefore, that we > should agree to disagree and let history sort things out. However, the OCP approach has been described publicly in detail, so those details can be discussed if you care to take the time and effort to understand them. It is not realistic to expect Dave or me or others to repeat the details in the OCP technical documentation in emails on this list. OTOH, your proposed alternative has not been articulated anywhere that we could read, has it? Your counterargument is not about the particulars of the OCP approach but just about the general idea of using language or embodiment so as to create a system that can be taught. If you want to keep the discussion on this high level of generality, then why don't you answer this question: **What is your alternative to teaching??** I.e., to me, the main point of having intelligence coevolve with linguistic and body-control/perception capability in an AGI, is so as to enable humans to effectively teach that AGI. If you make an AGI without any ability for linguistic, gestural, etc. interaction with humans -- how will you teach it??? Or is your idea that it will be **so** smart from the get-go, on its own, that you won't need to teach it. That it will gain all the knowledge it needs by pure unsupervised pattern-recognition from the environment based on seeking to achieve its goals and learning from experience? In my view, that is possible but much much much harder. It's hard enough to learn to cope with the world when you have a teacher, parent, etc. This seems to be a basic point of logic or information theory rather than anything particular about OCP. thx Ben G ------------------------------------------- agi Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244&id_secret=114414975-3c8e69 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
