Ben Goertzel wrote:
Colin,
There's a difference between
1)
Discussing in detail how you're going to build a non-digital-computer
based AGI
2)
Presenting general, hand-wavy theoretical ideas as to why
digital-computer-based AGI can't work
I would be vastly more interested in 1 than 2 ... and I suspect many
others on the
list feel similarly...
-- Ben G
RE: (1)
OK. I'll deposit (1) in nice easy to digestible slices as and when
appropriate... if that can be slotted into your original (1) for
discussion every now and then on the forum ...Alrighty then!
RE:(2)
Well I'm just a messenger from science and other logicians who are
adding to an ever growing pile labelled "cognition is not computation"
which has had yet more stuff added this year. It seems to be invalid
from so many angles it's hard to keep up with...But the 3 main existing
papers I have already cited: I believe them. I also have 2 of my own in
review. They are based on existing physics and empirical work...no
handwavy anything. I didn't reach the position lightly, because it makes
the problem about a million times harder.......
OK. The message delivered. I can do no more than that. The bottom line:
If I am wrong and COMP is true, we get AGI.
If COMP is false and I am right, we get AGI.
Sounds good to me! Let's leave it there. If minimal postings to the
above (1) fit into your original (1) then that makes me feel that the
forum is sidling up to a scientifically sound enthusiasm for AGI.
Strength in diversity.
Think about it. One day a real AGI is going to read this email forum
squabbling away- if those involved have the ideas that work, this
discussion will part of their personal history, a gestation of sorts,
and I hope the AGI will see the work of caring parents on a well
informed mission dedicated to their very genesis. That's how I'd want my
mum(s) and dad(s) to be. :-) I'd rather be in that lineage than not.
Wouldn't you? Far more interesting.
Gotta go write the AGI-09 paper, amongst 46782318 other things....I
won't be back without (1)-style deliverables.
cheers
Colin
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