On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 4:53 PM, Ben Goertzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 4:50 PM, Pei Wang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 3:07 PM, Matt Mahoney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> > >> > An exact description of the quantum state of the universe gives you >> > everything else. >> >> Why? Just because it is the smallest object we know? Is this a >> self-evident commonsense, or a conclusion from physics? > > > It's an implication of quantum theory.
So there are physicists who think in principle the stock market can be accurately predicated from quantum theory alone? I'd like to get a reference on that. ;-) Pei > However, it's not yet fully validated experimentally or theoretically. > > No one has ever, for instance, > derived the periodic table of the elements from the laws of physics, without > making a > lot of hacky assumptions that amount to using known facts of chemistry to > tune various > constants in the derivations. > > ben g > >> >> As I said before, this is a very strong version of reductionism. It >> was widely accepted in the time of Newton and Laplace, but I don't >> think it is still considered as a valid theory in philosophy of >> science. This position is not only unjustifiable, but also lead the >> research to wrong directions. It is like to suggest an architect to >> analyze the structure of a building at atom level, because all >> building materials are made by atoms, after all. The fact that all >> building materials are indeed made by atoms only makes the suggestion >> even more harmful than a suggestion based on false statements. >> >> Pei >> >> >> ------------------------------------------- >> agi >> Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now >> RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ >> Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?&; >> Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com > > > > -- > Ben Goertzel, PhD > CEO, Novamente LLC and Biomind LLC > Director of Research, SIAI > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > "A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher > a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, > build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, > cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, > program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. > Specialization is for insects." -- Robert Heinlein > > > ________________________________ > agi | Archives | Modify Your Subscription ------------------------------------------- agi Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244&id_secret=117534816-b15a34 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
