Tudor

Thanks for the feedback.

The vocabulary terms I use are simply value-neutral verbal tools that aid in 
communication.

Mankind must police its own value judgements -- if that is even possible
Only a properly programmed AI agent would be able to resist all temptation, in 
that this enhanced capacity allows negative transactions to be converted into 
positive ones, while simultaneously inhibiting the reverse reaction. With such 
ethical safeguards firmly in place, the AI computer should consistently be able 
to make the right moral decision, a virtual "saint" among men. Any direct 
familiarity with the vices necessarily occurs in a strictly diagnostic mode, 
for the prime AI directive dictates strict adherence to a virtuous repertoire. 
This unerring sense of ethical constancy should prove to be the most valuable 
asset for such an AI agent, in fitting contrast to the more questionable 
predilections of its human counterparts. Here, perhaps the greatest risk to the 
AI computer stems precisely from the inevitable temptation to selfishly 
override such programming safeguards: the computer scarcely able to initiate 
such drastic procedures on its own. 
It is here that the resistance to the power of the AI computer would be voiced 
the loudest, particularly with respect to the ingrained reluctance to allow 
such power to pass to a machine. Here, these ethical safeguards serve not only 
to protect against outside tampering, but also encourage a more virtuous degree 
of compliance within a human sphere of influence, a challenge clearly within 
the technological prowess of even the current gen-eration.
    Such a faithful AI assistant might eventually serve in the role of backup 
conscience for its human counterparts, particularly in circumstances where the 
native version might tend to fail us. This glowing sense of optimism is clearly 
warranted in light of the considerable influence computers play in our everyday 
lives. The en-hanced detection capabilities anticipated for the AI computer 
would further serve to strengthen such a beneficial relationship, with 
virtually unlimited benefits awaiting just over the technological horizon. The 
nightmarish visions of technological doom surely pale in comparison to the 
computational marvels predicted to become commonplace during the Third 
Millennium. 

Cordially

John LaMuth

www.emotionchip.net 


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Tudor Boloni 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 2:05 AM
  Subject: Re: [agi] who is going to build the wittgenstein-ian AI filter to 
spot all the intellectual nonsense


  John, an impressive effort and wonderful direction, an analytical psychology 
of the Good in humans is sorely lacking and the focus on human sickness has had 
a monopoly for way too long and with untold negative consequences for society 
at large.  assuming these meanings are correct (or will be fine tuned to be so 
at some point), cannot your coding include classes that would prohibit improper 
uses of such terms, kind of a system of rejecting attempts to mix value 
judgments and labels? 





  On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 12:29 AM, John LaMuth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

     Mike

    The abstract nouns Honor. Justice. Truth  can all be shown
    to be objectively based in science of Behaviorism

    http://www.angelfire.com/rnb/fairhaven/behaviorism.html

    as outlined in technically linked schematics

    http://www.angelfire.com/rnb/fairhaven/schematics.html

    and even granted US patent 6587846

    www.ethicalvalues.com

    Just offering up the latest advances...

    Wittgenstein would be proud  ^_^

    Cordially

    John LaMuth

    www.charactervalues.org 


          GUILT

          Previously, you (as reinforcer) have leniently acted in a reinforcing 
fashion towards me: overriding my (as procurer) submissive treatment of you.

          But now, I (as personal authority) will guiltily act in a submissive 
fashion towards you: overruling your lenient treatment of me.
         BLAME

          Previously, I (as personal authority) have guiltily acted in a 
submissive fashion towards you: overriding your (as reinforcer) lenient 
treatment of me.

          But now, you (as my personal fol-lower) will blamefully act in a 
lenient fashion towards me: overruling my (as PA) guilty treatment of you.
         
          HONOR

          Previously, you (as my personal follower) have blamefully acted in a 
lenient fashion towards me: overriding my (as PA) guilty treatment of you.

          But now, I (as group authority) will honorably act in a guilty 
fashion towards you: overruling your (as PF) blameful treatment of me.
         JUSTICE

          Previously, I (as group authority) have honorably acted in a guilty 
fashion towards you: overriding your (as PF) blameful treatment of me.


          But now, you (as group representative) will justly-blame me: 
overruling my (as GA) honorable sense of guilt.
         
          LIBERTY

          Previously, you (as group representative) have justly-blamed me: 
overriding my (as GA) honorable sense of guilt.


          But now, I (as spiritual authority) will honorably act in a 
libertarian fashion towards you: overruling your 

          just-blaming of me.
         HOPE

          Previously, I (as spiritual authority) have honorably acted in a 
libertarian fashion towards you: overriding your (as GR) just-blaming of me.


          But now, you (as my spiritual disciple) will blamefully-hope for 
justice: overruling my (as SA) libertarian sense of honor.
         
          FREE WILL

          Previously, you (as my spiritual disciple) have blamefully-hoped for 
justice: overriding my (as SA) libertarian sense of honor.


          But now, I (as humanitarian authority) will honorably act in a freely 
willed fashion towards you: overruling your (as SD) blameful-hope for justice.
         TRUTH

          Previously, I (as humanitarian authority) have honorably acted in a 
freely-willed fashion towards you: overriding your (as SD) blameful hope for 
justice.

          But now, you (as representative member of humanity) will justly-hope 
for the truth: overruling my (as HA) libertarian sense of free will.
         
          EQUALITY

          Previously, you (as representative member of humanity) have 
justly-hoped for the truth: overriding my (as HA) libertarian sense of free 
will.

          But now, I (as transcendental authority) will freely-willed act in an 
egalitarian fashion towards you: overruling your (as RH) just-hope for the 
truth.
         BLISS

          Previously, I (as transcendental authority) have freely-willed acted 
in an egalitarian fashion towards you: overriding your (as RH) just-hope for 
the truth.

          But now, you (as my transcendental follower) will blissfully hope for 
the truth: overruling my (as TA) egalitarian treatment of you.
         


    .........

      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Mike Tintner 
      To: [email protected] 
      Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 10:39 AM
      Subject: Re: [agi] who is going to build the wittgenstein-ian AI filter 
to spot all the intellectual nonsense



        Tudor: I agree that there are many better questions to elucidate the 
tricks/pitfalls of language.  but lets list the biggest time wasters first, 

        Er, it's a rather big job. I think you're talking about all abstract 
nouns. Time. Space. Honour. Justice. Truth. Realism Beauty. Science. Art.   
You're talking IOW about a dimension of language almost as fundamental as 
adverbs. 

        It's worth pursuing the illusions created by the verbal abstractions of 
language and the ways we use them  -  but it's a huge task.


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agi
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