On the other hand, if you want to get government research grants for your AI
work, then having a PhD is definitely a humongous plus...

ben

On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Terren Suydam <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> I'm no expert in these matters, but it seems this conversation is lacking
> the following point(s).
>
> Ability to score funding for any venture usually requires salesmanship and
> connections. Salesmanship in turn requires that you are able to tell a good
> story about your product/approach, and be able to dispel doubts. Charisma
> and confidence help, and these can be developed to some extent if you're not
> one of the lucky ones who are just natural salesmen.
>
> So I'd say if your primary concern is scoring funding, a PhD is a costly
> way to gain credibility. Credibility can be earned in other ways (such as
> having demonstrable results), and other factors may ultimately be more
> important, such as the ability to create and develop relationships with the
> people in your field who may be in a good position to help you out.
>
> Terren
>
> --- On Wed, 12/17/08, YKY (Yan King Yin) <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > > On the contrary, getting a PhD is an astoundingly poor
> > strategy for raising
> > > $$ for a startup.  If you have a talent for biz
> > sufficient to raise $$ for a
> > > startup, you can always get some prof to join your
> > team to lend you academic
> > > credibility.
> > >
> > > It is also useful in terms of lending you more
> > credibility when you talk
> > > about your own wacky research ideas.  This may be part
> > of YKY's motivation,
> > > and it's a genuinely meaningful one.  But having
> > credibility when talking
> > > about research ideas is not particularly well
> > correlated with being able to
> > > raise business funding.
> >
> > Getting business funding may be an inherently hard thing to
> > do.  So,
> > other things being equal, spending some time + money on a
> > PhD degree
> > may still be better than all other options.  That's my
> > current
> > reasoning...
> >
> >
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Director of Research, SIAI
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