I agree with scshunt's arguments. Destroying the points all at once is permitted by the rules, even if it is a mistake in the rules. Trying to catch him on some other issue that the courts already DISMISSED in order to make-up for him cleverly circumventing the rules does not seem appropriate. I opine OVERRULE/NOT GUILTY.
On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 12:56, Ed Murphy <[email protected]> wrote: > Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=3072a > > ============================ Appeal 3072a ============================ > > Panelist: woggle > Decision: > > Panelist: Yally > Decision: > > Panelist: Tanner L. Swett > Decision: > > ======================================================================== > > History: > > Appeal initiated: 08 Aug 2011 19:55:57 GMT > Assigned to woggle (panelist): (as of this message) > Assigned to Yally (panelist): (as of this message) > Assigned to Tanner L. Swett (panelist): (as of this message) > > ======================================================================== > > Appellant scshunt's Arguments: > > I did my best to fulfill the requirements. > The fact that there was a bug in the rules at the time that allowed me > to pay them concurrently is orthogonal to the issue that I missed the > deadline, for which another judge already gave me DISCHARGE. I believe > that the true balance probably lies somewhere in a one- or two-point > fine for each. > > Moreover, COMMUNITY SERVICE should not be used as a workaround for > other broken punishments, otherwise we might well replace every other > non-DISCHARGE policy with COMMUNITY SERVICE. > > ======================================================================== > > Gratuitous Arguments by Murphy: > > scshunt was not the defendant in CFJ 3054. > > ======================================================================== > > Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=3072 > > ========================= Criminal Case 3072 ========================= > > scshunt violated Rule 1504 (Criminal Cases) by failing to > destroy the 4 Points e was FINED in CFJ 3052 within the time > limit. > > ======================================================================== > > Caller: Walker > Barred: scshunt > > Judge: Pavitra > Judgement: GUILTY/COMMUNITY SERVICE > > Appeal: 3072a > Decision: (pending) > > ======================================================================== > > History: > > Called by Walker: 25 Jul 2011 20:36:06 GMT > Defendant scshunt informed: 25 Jul 2011 20:36:06 GMT > Assigned to Pavitra: 08 Aug 2011 15:42:21 GMT > Judged GUILTY/COMMUNITY SERVICE by Pavitra: > 08 Aug 2011 17:19:02 GMT > Appealed by scshunt: 08 Aug 2011 19:55:57 GMT > Appeal 3072a: 08 Aug 2011 19:55:57 GMT > > ======================================================================== > > Gratuitous Arguments by scshunt: > > On all three of these, I plead GUILTY but request minimal sentencing > as I misunderstood the nature of the fine; I thought it was platonic > and not pragmatic. I transfer 13 of my Points to the LFD to satisfy my > obligations under criminal cases 3052-3054. > > ======================================================================== > > Judge Pavitra's Arguments: > > CFJs 3052-3054 assigned fines of 4, 4, and 13 points. scshunt attempted > to pay all of these with a single 13-point transfer. While this was > technically valid due to a bug, it somewhat impairs eir claim of good > faith. Paying the original fines in full seems appropriate. > > I judge each of CFJs 3072-3 GUILTY/COMMUNITY SERVICE - {Destroy or > transfer to the LFD 4 points, separately from all other requirements to > transfer or destroy points.} > > ======================================================================== > > Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=3073a > > ============================ Appeal 3073a ============================ > > Panelist: woggle > Decision: > > Panelist: Yally > Decision: > > Panelist: Tanner L. Swett > Decision: > > ======================================================================== > > History: > > Appeal initiated: 08 Aug 2011 19:55:57 GMT > Assigned to woggle (panelist): (as of this message) > Assigned to Yally (panelist): (as of this message) > Assigned to Tanner L. Swett (panelist): (as of this message) > > ======================================================================== > > Appellant scshunt's Arguments: > > I did my best to fulfill the requirements. > The fact that there was a bug in the rules at the time that allowed me > to pay them concurrently is orthogonal to the issue that I missed the > deadline, for which another judge already gave me DISCHARGE. I believe > that the true balance probably lies somewhere in a one- or two-point > fine for each. > > Moreover, COMMUNITY SERVICE should not be used as a workaround for > other broken punishments, otherwise we might well replace every other > non-DISCHARGE policy with COMMUNITY SERVICE. > > ======================================================================== > > Gratuitous Arguments by Murphy: > > scshunt was not the defendant in CFJ 3054. > > ======================================================================== > > Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=3073 > > ========================= Criminal Case 3073 ========================= > > scshunt violated Rule 1504 (Criminal Cases) by failing to > destroy the 4 Points e was FINED in CFJ 3053 within the time > limit. > > ======================================================================== > > Caller: Walker > Barred: scshunt > > Judge: Pavitra > Judgement: GUILTY/COMMUNITY SERVICE > > Appeal: 3073a > Decision: (pending) > > ======================================================================== > > History: > > Called by Walker: 25 Jul 2011 20:36:06 GMT > Defendant scshunt informed: 25 Jul 2011 20:36:06 GMT > Assigned to Pavitra: 08 Aug 2011 15:42:21 GMT > Judged GUILTY/COMMUNITY SERVICE by Pavitra: > 08 Aug 2011 17:19:02 GMT > Appealed by scshunt: 08 Aug 2011 19:55:57 GMT > Appeal 3073a: 08 Aug 2011 19:55:57 GMT > > ======================================================================== > > Gratuitous Arguments by scshunt: > > On all three of these, I plead GUILTY but request minimal sentencing > as I misunderstood the nature of the fine; I thought it was platonic > and not pragmatic. I transfer 13 of my Points to the LFD to satisfy my > obligations under criminal cases 3052-3054. > > ======================================================================== > > Judge Pavitra's Arguments: > > CFJs 3052-3054 assigned fines of 4, 4, and 13 points. scshunt attempted > to pay all of these with a single 13-point transfer. While this was > technically valid due to a bug, it somewhat impairs eir claim of good > faith. Paying the original fines in full seems appropriate. > > I judge each of CFJs 3072-3 GUILTY/COMMUNITY SERVICE - {Destroy or > transfer to the LFD 4 points, separately from all other requirements to > transfer or destroy points.} > > ======================================================================== >
