> This may violate Rule 2478. In particular, under that rule the Referee SHALL > declare a pointing to be shenanigans if e believes it would be ILLEGAL or > INEFFECTIVE to impose a fine for it; otherwise e SHALL impose the cold hand > of justice.
Not quite. When a player Points a Finger, the investigator SHALL investigate the allegation and, in a timely fashion, SHALL conclude the investigation by: - Imposing the Cold Hand of Justice on the perp, as described elsewhere; or - if e believes that no rules violation occurred or that it would be ILLEGAL or INEFFECTIVE to levy a fine for it, announcing the Finger Pointing to be Shenanigans. In short: - I MUST either Impose the Cold Hand of Justice or announce Shenanigans. - If no rule violation occurred, then I CANNOT Impose the Cold Hand of Justice (R2531). - If _I believe_ a rule violation occurred, then I CANNOT announce Shenanigans. In this case, I believed no rule violation occurred. Therefore I COULD, and did, announce Shenanigans regardless of whether or not a rule violation actually occurred, and doing so discharged my obligations under R2478. (It is true that I forgot to announce that the Pointing of Gaelan's Finger at Gaelan for violating Rule 105 was also Shenanigans. I do so now.) The fact that I first attempted to Impose the Cold Hand of Justice on Gaelan is irrelevant. I am not PROHIBITED from performing INEFFECTIVE actions (unless doing so constitutes a lie). And if it actually was EFFECTIVE, then so much the better - it means eir attempt to make every player impure backfired. Incidentally, I can't quite figure out if the way this rule behaves is intentional or not. It seems similar to the fairly-common "If this CFJ that 'this is a CFJ' exists, then it must be TRUE, so I judge it TRUE." -twg ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 11:26 PM, D. Margaux <dmargaux...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Feb 13, 2019, at 6:01 PM, Timon Walshe-Grey m...@timon.red wrote: > > Neither of these interpretations imposes any obligation on any player to > > re-enact repealed rules. Therefore, for each player other than Gaelan, I > > announce the below-quoted Pointing of Gaelan's Finger at that player to be > > Shenanigans. > > However, just in case I'm wrong, I Impose the Cold Hand of Justice by > > levying a fine of 3 blots on Gaelan for failing to reenact rule 2452 > > ("Trust Tokens") with the same ID number and the next change identifier, in > > violation of rule 105. If I am correct that no rules violation occurred, > > then of course this attempt to levy a fine is INEFFECTIVE. > > This may violate Rule 2478. In particular, under that rule the Referee SHALL > declare a pointing to be shenanigans if e believes it would be ILLEGAL or > INEFFECTIVE to impose a fine for it; otherwise e SHALL impose the cold hand > of justice. > > Here, Gaelan and all other players are similarly situated. There’s no legal > way to attempt to impose a fine on Gaelan without also attempting to impose a > fine on everyone else, I think.