On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 6:49 PM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> avpx wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 9:59 AM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> avpx wrote:
>>>
>>>> My idea is an official currency, the Napier, abbreviated Np, which is
>>>> the base-10 log of its worth. 2 Np is worth 10x as much as 1 Np which
>>>> is worth 10x as much as 0 Np. One can transfer, for example, 1 Np to a
>>>> person who has 2 Np, and, assuming no tax, the recipient will have
>>>> 2.041 Np, which is log(10^2+10^1). Taxes are easy in this system, as
>>>> one just adds log(1-N) to the amount being sent to get the amount
>>>> received, where N is the tax rate.
>>>>
>>>> An office could be set up, the Treasuror, or an existing office (maybe
>>>> that one already exists?) could manage the amount of Np people have.
>>>> If person A transfers 2 Np to person B, then person B only receives
>>>> 2+log(1-N) Np, and the remaining 2+log(N) Np would go into the
>>>> Treasury, which is managed by the Treasuror. This could be used to pay
>>>> salaries for people who hold offices and complete their reports on
>>>> time, among many other things.
>>>>
>>>> IMO, a good, though slightly confusing currency is just what Agora
>>>> needs. Tell me what you all think, and how this would fit in with
>>>> current Agoran rules and offices.
>>> Ugh, I just had a flashback to
>>>  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:AntiochCollege
>>>
>>> What about having holdings and transfers work normally, but charging
>>> along the lines of "you can buy 1 widget for 90% of your Np"?  But the
>>> real problem is that, however you express it, this seems to penalize
>>> log-rolling.
>
>> I don't think this would work. After all, then what's the point of
>> having any amount of Np? If everything just costs a percentage of your
>> money, then it doesn't matter how much you have, because you can still
>> afford everything!
>
> (Please don't top-post.  Fixed.)
>
> Let's see:
>
> avpx-notation                Murphy-notation
>
> Alice has 2                  Alice has 100
> Bob has 1                    Bob has 1
>
> Alice transfers 1 to Bob     Alice transfers 10 to Bob
>
> Alice has ~1.954             Alice has 90
> Bob has ~1.301               Bob has 20
>
> So far, as Zefram points out, this is just an isomorphic way of talking
> about how currency normally works.  The interesting and not-yet-clear
> part is:
>
> Alice pays ? to do X         Alice pays ? to do X
> Bob pays ? to do X           Bob pays ? to do X
>
>

Well, I don't really care, guys. I know it's just an abstraction to a
linear currency system, but I was discussing it with a few friends,
and they all seemed to think it was sort of interesting in the way it
worked. I just thought the mode of operation of this currency was sort
of cool and a little confusing, which I found intriguing. We could go
with a linear currency system and it'd work just fine, and I'd be more
than happy to craft that bit up. Whatever suits Agora.

avpx

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