On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 2:32 PM, ihope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 3:27 PM, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> In CFJ 1695, it was ruled that not allowing partnerships to act
>> infringes the right of participation in the fora of the partnership.
>> This does not apply in the case of first-class players acting on
>> behalf of each other, which is addressed in CFJs 1719 and 1833-5.
>> Although some (Goethe) don't like that precedent, it has stood for a
>> while.
>
> I'm not a partnership, of course; I can act in other ways.
>
>> The situation is not as clear-cut as it looks in the rules, because
>> humans don't send e-mail messages.  Computers send them.  I make up a
>> suggested contract and you create it, I'm the author of the message,
>> but you're definitely the one who performed it because you sent it.
>> This applies even if you just agreed to send to the PF everything that
>> I said, and possibly if you make a webform letting me send messages on
>> your behalf in a webpage-- but this was ruled possible in CFJ 1719,
>> especially considering the pragmatic argument that some official mail
>> has always been partially authored and/or sent by computers (i.e. CotC
>> notices).
>>
>> Then again, let's say the list receives a message purported to be sent
>> by me, where I say I deregister.  This might have bounced through a
>> lot of SMTP servers before it got there, but you don't say that the
>> SMTP server performed the action.  Nor do you say my email client sent
>> the message.  But what if my "email client" is that you're my
>> secretary, who types down what I say and presses send?  Then I
>> probably still sent the message.  What if I'm standing in the room and
>> I say "ok, you can send whatever you want as me"?  You could argue
>> that by CFJ 1685 the non-mindless nature of my secretary at that point
>> makes the message really sent by em, but what if I say "you can copy
>> that message from B and send it as me"?  Even if I haven't read it?
>
> If I tell my secretary to type something and press send, e will use my
> email address and put my name on it; e will have sent it, but I will
> have written it and consented to its being sent under my name. The
> rules say that the sender is the one who announces, so if I tell my
> secretary to type "I register" and press the send button, e will have
> registered. But I suppose I, in dictating it to my secretary, sent the
> message as well, so really, both of us will have registered, which is
> Weird.
>

I intend to test the above but, instead of a secretary I will have a
friend send a message though my e-mail account, registering emself.

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