On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 3:11 PM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 3:01 PM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> (reason: "a moment ago" is not consistent with the acts-within-the-same >> message assumption of "simultaneous but sequential"). > > The assumption is somewhat paradoxical. It can be seen as both true > and false that the announcement happened "before" the CFJ. If we take > "a moment ago" to mean "an indefinite, possibly infinitesimal, time in > the past", then it does not seem inconsistent to me.
I changed my mind. "Simultaneous but sequential" most reasonably means that the ordering of events is lexicographical on the tuple (time, ordinal), not strictly time-based as we usually think of it. The phrase "a moment ago", however, *is* strictly time-based. -root
