On Sun, 16 Nov 2008, Ed Murphy wrote:
>> 2008/11/17 Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>> Aha.  I initiate an inquiry case on the following statement,
>>> disqualifying comex:
>>>
>>>      Neither Proposal 5956 nor Proposal 5962 has been adopted.
>>
>> Arguments:
>>
>> Strong precedent is that one-off increases work.
>
> What strong precedent?  I don't remember that clause being invoked
> even once (until now) since it was enacted.

Well, I'm not aware of any precise precedent when there's a conflict
between a continuous defined state and an instantaneous change.  

R2156 defines voting limit continuously:
      The voting limit of an eligible voter on an ordinary decision 
      *is* eir caste at the start of its voting period
so any rule that purports to change the voting limit away from this
value is in conflict with R2156.

R2126 purports to do a one-off shift, and *does* in fact have a higher 
precedence due to number.  So this can be read either as a direct 
conflict in which case R2126 wins, or, as Murphy argues, this is the 
instantaneous perturbation and return to defined state (with no 
conflict).  At one time, there was a vague theory that if there's two 
choices, one that creates a conflict and resolves it by precedence, and 
another that doesn't create a conflict, that one should choose the 
lack-of conflict option.  But I think that's more "judicial preference"
rather than "precedent".

There's a considerably stronger argument that basic definitions (e.g. "a 
player's VP is (by definition) eir caste) effectively claims precedence 
(in the R1030 sense) over non-definitional changes from that definition.  
This would favor R2156, and not even allow the "instantaneous switch"
which seems a little dubious.  I don't remember it being written in 
those words, but one could probably trawl the CFJs for arguments that 
effectively say this (that a property can not stray from its definition--
e.g. calling a VP something other than "its caste" is as nonsensical as 
setting a numerical index to be "a bunch of grapes").

-Goethe



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