On 07/29/2010 02:42 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
Hmm, I'm suddenly unconvinced that Win Announcements work at all for most defined win conditions. A win announcement must be factually correct in announcing that someone wins the game (R2186). But most win conditions are not triggered until a win announcement is made (are triggered "upon" a win announcement). Eg. R2188, 2223, etc. So how can a win announcement be factually correct until a win announcement is made? I'm not sure if this is self-affirming (works fine) or is circular (broken). Thoughts? REMAND is looking better all the time... -G
I think it's self-affirming. If I say that I take an action, it is only a factually correct statement (and therefore legal) because the statement causes the action to be performed. Likewise, if I make a win announcement, it is a factually correct statement because the announcement causes a win.
Also, with regards to my original complaint, my reading is that the proposal, which purports to award a win to various players, is not the same as stating that they win.
-coppro
