On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 19:44, Alex Smith <[email protected]> wrote:

> CFJ: Yally is a player.
>
> Arguments:
> Recently Yally embarked upon a campaign of systematic rules-breaking,
> pointing out that all the punishments listed in the ruleset for
> rules-breaking could be avoided via more rules-breaking. However,
> generally speaking, someone who refuses to abide by the rules of a game
> is, in fact, not playing it, but a different game. Despite the attempts
> of the rules to define who's playing the game or not, in terms of a
> switch, it is generally accepted (except among some players of The Game)
> that games cannot freely cause arbitrary persons to be playing them;
> children sometimes invent games in which there are penalties for not
> playing them, but this sort of thing is not generally accepted as making
> sense.
>
> Thus, because Yally was operating to a different set of rules than
> everyone else - intentionally not obeying the rules as written - it is
> quite likely that he is not a player, beyond the power of anything in
> the rules to make him one. (Just like you wouldn't consider a rule
> defining, say, Hillary Clinton as a player, as actually causing her to
> play Agora.)
>
> --
> ais523


Gratuitous: Nomics are generally seen as different from other games in this
sense. Nomics define what is possible and what is legal. If I were to
suddenly perform actions that were impossible under the ruleset, then yes, I
would not be playing this game. However, performing illegal actions merely
entitles me to a punishment; the fact that the punishment system is flawed
does not mean I am not playing the game. Consider, for example, someone who
performs an impossible action in real life. If a person traveled faster than
the speed of light, then that person would not be real (he must be
fictional). However, if someone stole a loaf of bread, he wouldn't cease to
be in existence - he would merely be punished by relevant authorities.

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