On Mon, 24 Jun 2013, Alex Smith wrote: > On Sun, 2013-06-23 at 13:21 -0400, omd wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 12:43 PM, Sean Hunt <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 4:38 PM, Alex Smith <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> For each colour of ribbon, I attempt to award myself a ribbon of that > > >> colour. > > > > > > Treating as INEFFECTIVE as attempting to do something is not an action. > > > > Long precedent and common sense is that saying "I attempt to do X" is > > equivalent to saying "I do X". > > I announce {{{I call a CFJ on the statement "This is a CFJ."}}} > I attempt to announce {{{I call a CFJ on the statement "This is another > CFJ."}}} > > Arguments: Clearly, just calling a CFJ by itself works. How many levels > of ISIDTID indirection are needed before announcing that you announce > something stops working?
Also, I think there's a genuine precedent somewhere that says "I announce that" is pretty much a null string and nested versions of that collapse out (wish I could remember the context, something to do with On Behalf Of stuff I think). -G.

