On Thu, 2016-09-15 at 09:58 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> I'm vaguely remembering a precedent that said "an announcement clearly
> for one thing is not to be interpreted as an announcement for something
> else".
> 
> For example, it's pretty clear that people reply to a Proposal 
> distribution with a single word like this, and it works, or at least it
> hasn't been questioned:
> 
> > [From Promotor's message] Proposal XXXX
> FOR
> 
> however, not every instance of the word FOR is taken as a vote, in
> particular, if context is placed around it (like ais523's sentence)
> it disqualifies it from being the vote, as it clearly not a notice
> for voting but rather something else.
> 
> [I'm playing Devil's advocate here with a vague memory of a precedent,
> in case someone else remembers it too; I'm not particularly convinced 
> with my argument, and that ballot rule definitely needs a fix].

For what it's worth, my ballot was intended to be a ballot, and nothing
else; it was just intended to not /look/ like a ballot. (In general, a
player randomly making statements about the gamestate, with no context,
is typically going to be up to something.)

Announcing a (true, in this case) statement out of context is certainly
something that's permitted by the rules (we used to have a rule
explicitly permitting random actions like that, with a caveat that they
wouldn't necessarily accomplish anything; anyone happen to know if it's
still there?). However, it isn't a defined game action, and I don't
think it's reasonable to have expected the purpose of the statement to
be merely to inform people about its truth value (especially as it was
oddly specific, rather than a statement along the line of "hey, new
people, note that PRESENT is a valid vote too, you might want to
consider it" which would be somewhat patronising but nonetheless have
an obvious purpose behind it).

-- 
ais523

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