I ask again: has it ever been a problem that people have been stealing our rules without asking? Because there are hundreds and hundreds of internet games in the world which don't go to lengths to protect their own copyright.
On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 4:41 PM, Aris Merchant <[email protected]> wrote: > We can at least set copyright for every new contribution. We would > even have a decent (alright, actually rather horrible given the way > contract law works) argument that they had given up their rights to it > in contributing it to Agora, or alternately that they agreed to abide > by Agora's rules and are bound by this one (the reason this is a > horrible argument is that no one realized, up to now, that Agoran > rules have any real world legal implications, although the former > argument might conceivably hold up in court). > > -Aris > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 9:35 PM, Ørjan Johansen <[email protected]> wrote: >> On Wed, 29 Nov 2017, Aris Merchant wrote: >> >>> What would people think of a proposal actually specifying that Agorans >>> all share copyright over the rules (and the gamestate in general) and >>> that they are licensed under X licence? I don't think this would ever >>> actually be a problem, but it's probably better to make it clear so >>> that it can't be. Also, what license would be appropriate (public >>> domain is a pretty strong contender, because that's basically the >>> situation now)? >> >> >> Although I'm working only from impression myself, I don't think copyright >> law works that way. Any actual copyright reassignement or licensing >> requires the explicit permission of every person who's contributed >> nontrivially to the current rules. >> >> If it actually _is_ a problem, it's terribly complicated to fix, possibly >> impossible (we might not be able to _find_ every contributor). Agora was >> created during a time when no one cared about copyright for stuff like this. >> Barn doors and horses. >> >> Greetings, >> Ørjan. >> >> >>> -Aris >>> >>> On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 8:59 PM, Owen Jacobson <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Nov 24, 2017, at 2:24 AM, Kerim Aydin <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I don't recall who drew that particular image. But the heraldic >>>>> description was >>>>> mandated by a proposal by GreyKnight adopted in 2007 (it was later made >>>>> into >>>>> a rule): >>>>> >>>>> Proposal 4898 by Greyknight, AI=1, Ordinary >>>>> Agoran Arms >>>>> >>>>> The coat of arms of Agora is defined by the following blazon: >>>>> >>>>> Tierced palewise sable, argent, and sable, charged with a quill and >>>>> an >>>>> axe in saltire, proper, and in the chief a capital letter A, gules. >>>>> >>>>> When any Player requires an image that e may use to represent Agora or >>>>> the interests thereof, e must use an image which accurately depicts the >>>>> blazon presented here. >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks. >>>> >>>> I ended up using it, with some hesitation, for the app icon for >>>> https://github.com/ojacobson/cadastre/ >>>> <https://github.com/ojacobson/cadastre/>. To see it in action you have to >>>> have a Heroku account - it’s only displayed during setup, when you click >>>> the >>>> “Deploy to Heroku” button in the README. >>>> >>>> -o >>>> >>> >> -- >From V.J. Rada
