I think the challenge should be to get Black Ribbons without getting cards.

On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 1:39 AM, Kerim Aydin <ke...@u.washington.edu> wrote:

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> How about we get rid of black ribbons altogether I loathe them
> (And am certainly not willing to make a rules exception for them).
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> On Mon, 12 Feb 2018, Alex Smith wrote:
> > On Mon, 2018-02-12 at 00:35 +0000, Alex Smith wrote:
> > > On Sun, 2018-02-11 at 16:32 -0800, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> > > > As referee I'm conflicted.  On one hand this is blatant use
> > > > of office for personal gain, on the other hand I convinced myself
> > > > when I was Tailor that the nature/ expectation of Black ribbons
> > > > made
> > > > this particular scam expected/ok.
> > >
> > > I look down on intentionally breaking rules as part of a scam, but on
> > > the other hand, I'm more willing to forgive that when Black Ribbons
> > > are
> > > involved (without other parts of the gamestate being touched).
> > > Perhaps
> > > I'm OK with this if the Tailor is OK with living with the typical
> > > punishment for intentionally falsifying the report (even though I
> > > normally believe that you shouldn't break the rules even if you're
> > > willing to live with the resulting punishment).
> > >
> > > Incidentally, I also believe it's acceptable to attempt to scam your
> > > way out of a punishment after an accidental rules breach, because
> > > that's a different issue from the rules breach itself. But that's
> > > probably unlikely to happen here.
> >
> > Hmm, proto: actions whose only purpose is to gain a Black Ribbon are
> > never illegal (although they could be impossible); however, if they
> > would otherwise violate the rules, they are (despite being legal) a
> > cardable offence.
> >
> > --
> > ais523
> >
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