I think the challenge should be to get Black Ribbons without getting cards.
On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 1:39 AM, Kerim Aydin <ke...@u.washington.edu> wrote: > > > How about we get rid of black ribbons altogether I loathe them > (And am certainly not willing to make a rules exception for them). > > On Mon, 12 Feb 2018, Alex Smith wrote: > > On Mon, 2018-02-12 at 00:35 +0000, Alex Smith wrote: > > > On Sun, 2018-02-11 at 16:32 -0800, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > As referee I'm conflicted. On one hand this is blatant use > > > > of office for personal gain, on the other hand I convinced myself > > > > when I was Tailor that the nature/ expectation of Black ribbons > > > > made > > > > this particular scam expected/ok. > > > > > > I look down on intentionally breaking rules as part of a scam, but on > > > the other hand, I'm more willing to forgive that when Black Ribbons > > > are > > > involved (without other parts of the gamestate being touched). > > > Perhaps > > > I'm OK with this if the Tailor is OK with living with the typical > > > punishment for intentionally falsifying the report (even though I > > > normally believe that you shouldn't break the rules even if you're > > > willing to live with the resulting punishment). > > > > > > Incidentally, I also believe it's acceptable to attempt to scam your > > > way out of a punishment after an accidental rules breach, because > > > that's a different issue from the rules breach itself. But that's > > > probably unlikely to happen here. > > > > Hmm, proto: actions whose only purpose is to gain a Black Ribbon are > > never illegal (although they could be impossible); however, if they > > would otherwise violate the rules, they are (despite being legal) a > > cardable offence. > > > > -- > > ais523 > > > >