If that were the case, I just wouldn't have come clean about it...

On 2018-02-12 11:42, Cuddle Beam wrote:
I think the challenge should be to get Black Ribbons without getting cards.

On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 1:39 AM, Kerim Aydin <ke...@u.washington.edu> wrote:

How about we get rid of black ribbons altogether I loathe them
(And am certainly not willing to make a rules exception for them).

On Mon, 12 Feb 2018, Alex Smith wrote:
On Mon, 2018-02-12 at 00:35 +0000, Alex Smith wrote:
On Sun, 2018-02-11 at 16:32 -0800, Kerim Aydin wrote:
As referee I'm conflicted.  On one hand this is blatant use
of office for personal gain, on the other hand I convinced myself
when I was Tailor that the nature/ expectation of Black ribbons
this particular scam expected/ok.
I look down on intentionally breaking rules as part of a scam, but on
the other hand, I'm more willing to forgive that when Black Ribbons
involved (without other parts of the gamestate being touched).
I'm OK with this if the Tailor is OK with living with the typical
punishment for intentionally falsifying the report (even though I
normally believe that you shouldn't break the rules even if you're
willing to live with the resulting punishment).

Incidentally, I also believe it's acceptable to attempt to scam your
way out of a punishment after an accidental rules breach, because
that's a different issue from the rules breach itself. But that's
probably unlikely to happen here.
Hmm, proto: actions whose only purpose is to gain a Black Ribbon are
never illegal (although they could be impossible); however, if they
would otherwise violate the rules, they are (despite being legal) a
cardable offence.


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