Because it's clear that I have not used the correct Agoran Term, I amend
my statement:
This is simply a case of Trigon writing down a thing that e didn't
actually mean and everyone else not realizing until after the passing of
the proposal. I wanted there to be five auctions, but clearly the passed
text does not reflect my intent. I, working under the assumption that
the rules called for five separate auctions, *attempted to initiate*
five separate auctions.
On 4/12/2018 3:09 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
You CANNOT do that. The rule doesn't allow you to. So you failed to
initiate five. You said you did in the announcement, but you didn't.
Maybe you initiated one (the first accurate one, AUCTION 2), or maybe
the collection was so ambiguous it all failed.
On Thu, 12 Apr 2018, Reuben Staley wrote:
This is simply a case of Trigon writing down a thing that e didn't actually
mean and everyone else not realizing until after the passing of the proposal.
I wanted there to be five auctions, but clearly the passed text does not
reflect my intent. I, working under the assumption that the rules called for
five separate auctions, initiated five separate auctions.
On 4/12/2018 2:53 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
Reading R2004, it looks like it was *supposed* to be a single auction?
That's definitely not how the announcement below reads, and not how
people have been bidding, so I don't know what actually happened.
(R2004 only allows 1 auction to be started each week).
I'm also looking for anything that says the Cartographer CAN transfer
land in any circumstances, and all I'm finding is SHALLs. (is there
a "SHALL implies CAN" somewhere?)
On Thu, 12 Apr 2018, Aris Merchant wrote:
Oops, you're right. You know, it seems pretty likely that those ones
just never began in the first place.
-Aris
On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 1:38 PM, Kerim Aydin <ke...@u.washington.edu>
wrote:
These are independent auctions so only the incorrect ones were just
terminated I think? (Auctions 1,3,4).
On Thu, 12 Apr 2018, Aris Merchant wrote:
I agree with G.'s interpretation. I believe that Rule 2549's statement
that "An Auction also CANNOT be initiated unless the Auctioneer is
able to give away each item in each of the Auction's lots" is
applicable, given that the announced items do not in fact exist. Just
in case, I terminate the ongoing land auction, because some of the
lots are nonexistent and therefore "the Auctioneer of that Auction
cannot transfer any item included in a lot in that Auction" (Rule
2552).
-Aris
On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 11:10 AM, Kerim Aydin <ke...@u.washington.edu>
wrote:
My interpretation:
You describe a particular lot as a "white land unit at XXXX". You
do not have
a "white land unit at XXXX" to transfer, so anyone can terminate the
auction.
If no one terminates it, I'm not sure whether you can satisfy your
obligation
to transfer by transferring a black land unit at XXXX, or not.
(oh, just out of curiosity where does it say you CAN transfer
particular
land units? That wording of that would play into what you can or
cannot
satisfy).
On Thu, 12 Apr 2018, Reuben Staley wrote:
I'd say that these data are less relevant than the coordinates of
the land
units, so it would not invalidate it. But that may just be me but
wanting
to do work to fix it.
On Thu, Apr 12, 2018, 11:24 Corona <liliumalbum.ag...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Wait, I just looked it up (in your own report) and:
AUCTION 1: The lot is the white land unit at (+1, +2) <--
actually black
AUCTION 2: The lot is the white land unit at (+1, +3)
AUCTION 3: The lot is the white land unit at (+2, 0) <--
actually black
AUCTION 4: The lot is the black land unit at (+2, +1) <--
actually white
AUCTION 5: The lot is the black land unit at (+2, +2)
Gasp! It cannot be! Is it a... SCAM?!?!
More seriously, does it make the auction initiation invalid?
On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 8:30 AM, Reuben Staley
<reuben.sta...@gmail.com>
wrote:
This is the second real land auction.
There are currently 5 public, unpreserved, non-aether land
units in
existence. All 5 are put up for auction.
For the following 5 auctions, I am the announcer, Agora is the
auctioneer,
and the minimum bid is 1 coin:
AUCTION 1: The lot is the white land unit at (+1, +2)
AUCTION 2: The lot is the white land unit at (+1, +3)
AUCTION 3: The lot is the white land unit at (+2, 0)
AUCTION 4: The lot is the black land unit at (+2, +1)
AUCTION 5: The lot is the black land unit at (+2, +2)
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