Apologies Aris - I too was focused on the coins, and agree with you on the
"binding" part. -G.
On Sat, 27 Oct 2018, D. Margaux wrote:
> Aris, sorry, I should have been clearer in my email.
>
> I do agree with you about the contract existence and effect part. I think a
> contract with secret text can be binding, have mint authority, and do
> anything a contract can do. It would be hard to enforce any contract
> obligations until the contract text is known to the referee or the CFJ judge
> who is asked to enforce the contract (at a minimum), but I don’t see any
> reason why a contract transmutes from one thing into something else entirely
> when the text is published.
>
> I was more referring to the plausibility of the idea that a contract can
> receive coins. On that issue, I think I could go either way.
>
>
> > On Oct 27, 2018, at 2:55 PM, Aris Merchant
> > <thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > You know, I’m prepared to believe ATMunn's interpretation on the ownership
> > thing, but I’d like to hear why my arguments are wrong or inapplicable
> > here. On the first thing though, the “contracts are binding” one, I don’t
> > see how the proposed interpretation could possibly be correct.
> > Straightforward application of the rules text, AFAICT, deterimines that my
> > position is correct. So I’d really like to see that overturned or an
> > explanation for exactly what I’m missing (I’m not infallible).
> >
> > -Aris
> >
> >> On Sat, Oct 27, 2018 at 6:31 AM D. Margaux <dmargaux...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I think both ATMunn’s and Aris’s opinions are plausible, and I will try to
> >> offer a more spirited defense of ATMunn’s when I have time. However, since
> >> we brought up the expressio unius and surplusage canons.....
> >>
> >> I am currently at (0, 0). The Rule says I CAN destroy a coin to throw it
> >> into the fountain. It doesn’t say *whose* coins. And it would be surplusage
> >> if it were limited only to my coins, because I can destroy my own coins
> >> already under Rule 2577. Therefore, under the surplusage canon, I take the
> >> following action:
> >>
> >> I destroy all coins possessed by any player other than myself to throw
> >> them into the fountain.
> >>
> >>
>
