I believe that the problem is that Yahoo does not cooperate with mailman. Each of Rance's emails has gone directly to my spam folder. When I tried to join Agora on my Yahoo account, I received similar reports from other players. It was easier to for me to switch to Gmail that figure out what was happening with Yahoo.
-- Trigon On Mon, Jun 10, 2019, 19:36 James Cook <jc...@cs.berkeley.edu> wrote: > It's hard to tell that the rest of your message is quoted. I suspect > Yahoo mail interacts badly with the mailing list somehow. Maybe it > doesn't format the text version of the email very well. > > On Mon, 10 Jun 2019 at 03:36, Rance Bedwell <rance...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > I withdraw the below CFJ. omd has shown me the error of my ways. > > > > > > I want to attempt to banish The Ritual, but I do not believe it is > currently possible to do so. For this reason I Call For Justice for this > statement: > > > > "The value of N Agoran Consent currently required to banish The Ritual > (Rule 2596) is indeterminate, because it is not possible to know if The > Ritual was performed in the week that began on May 27." > > > > > > Arguments in support of the CFJ > > > > If it is not possible to know the number of weeks that the ruleset has > been continuously appeased (value of B per Rule 2596) then it is not > possible to determine the value of N Agoran Consent as defined in Rule > 2596. If it is not possible to know whether The Ritual was performed > during the week of May 27, then it is not possible to determine the value > of B. > > > > I believe it is not possible to know if The Ritual was performed because > the rules do not define or limit the scope of what The Ritual is. No > player paid a fee of 7 coins which is the only way to know that The Ritual > was performed, but the failure to pay a fee of 7 coins is not necessarily > proof that The Ritual was not performed since The Ritual is never defined > specifically as "paying a fee of 7 coins". > > > > Consider a possible rule named "Definition of The Ritual" that reads: > "The Ritual is the posting of a message to a public forum." > > > > If this were a rule in the current ruleset, it would not in any way > conflict with or modify the meaning of Rule 2596. The clause "Any player > CAN perform The Ritual by paying a fee of 7 Coins." meets the requirements > of the hypothetical "Definition of The Ritual" rule. The paying of 7 coins > is a specific way to perform The Ritual but is not the The Ritual itself. > If the "Definition of The Ritual" rule is then removed that does not change > anything in Rule 2596 so still The Ritual is not equal to or defined as > "paying a fee of 7 coins". The Ritual is something else which at this time > is undefined. > > > > Or, consider a possible rule named "Long Live Agora" that reads: "Any > player CAN perform The Ritual by announcing 'Long live Agora the glorious, > long live Agora the beautiful, long live Agora the magnificent.'" > > > > If this were a rule in the current ruleset, it also would not conflict > with Rule 2596. It would describe a different way that The Ritual CAN be > performed, but since neither rule specifies how The Ritual MUST be > performed they would not conflict. They would describe two possible ways > The Ritual CAN be performed, but they would not define The Ritual. > > > > If Rule 2596 specified that The Ritual MUST be performed by paying a fee > of 7 coins, that would then create a defined scope of what The Ritual is or > is not. The "Long Live Agora" rule would lie outside of that scope and > would conflict with the definition. This is another example that supports > that The Ritual is currently undefined. > > > > If Rule 2596 stated; "Any player CAN perform The Ritual by paying a fee > of 7 Coins. The Ritual MUST be performed by paying a fee of 7 coins at > least once in every Agoran week..." then The Ritual would be defined and we > would know it was not performed in the week of May 27. Since it is not > defined in the rule, it is not possible to know if The Ritual was performed > in that week. This means the value of B and thus also N in Rule 2596 are > currently indeterminate. > > > > -Rance > > >
