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On Sunday, November 10, 2019 5:49 PM, Jason Cobb <jason.e.c...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 11/10/19 8:49 AM, Nch via agora-discussion wrote:
>
> > What I don't understand about these arguments is that, no matter how you 
> > parse "by announcement", the 2577 text immediately modifies "by 
> > announcement" with "by its owner". So no matter what the other conditions 
> > are, only the owner can perform this specific action.
> >
> > > Rule 2577/2
> > > Asset Actions [Excerpt]
> > > An asset generally CAN be transferred (syn. given) by announcement
> > > by its owner to another entity, subject to modification by its
> > > backing document.
>
> My argument is that Rule 478's clause doesn't import the restriction on
> who CAN perform the action from the authorizing clause. R2577's clause
> only authorizes the owner to transfer the asset, but R478's clause says
> that I do perform the action by clearly specifying it and announcing
> that I do so - it is (if my scam works) a separate method of performing
> the action.
>
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> Jason Cobb

This doesn't make sense to me, at all. The "by announcement" method is 
specified in a subclause of a sentence, it doesn't make sense that the 
surrounding context is somehow irrelevant. I could buy this if it said "by 
announcement, by its owner" and the argument was that those were separate, but 
the lack of a comma makes it clear that their connected.

I have a question about this hypothetical version:

> Rule 2577/X
> Asset Actions [Excerpt]
> An asset generally CAN be transferred (syn. given) by announcement
> subject to modification by its backing document. This can only be
> done by its owner.

Would you say your scam works in that case? Because as I see it, that's just an 
expanded form of the current wording.

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