On 1/21/20 10:54 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > On 1/21/2020 7:21 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: >> Well, now that the CFJs from the Troubles have been assigned, I have one >> that I've wanted to do for a little while: >> >> >> CFJ: "Coming into existence is a regulated action." >> > Gratuitous: > > In the phrase "I submit the following proposal" the act of creation has a > subject (I) and an object (the proposal). I believe in Agora we attribute a > cause (a subject) to every(?) act of creation (are there counterexamples?) > and that subject is the one who is governed by the regulation (it's the > subject who succeeds or fails).
I'd guess so, since even if a Rule phrases something strangely, then arguably that Rule is what causes the entity to come into existence. > To ask if the "object half" of the sentence > is subject to regulation is a matter of semantics with no rules-impact, so > IRRELEVANT. > Those are fair points, and I don't really have a counterargument for them. Although it would be interesting to see the action of creating the entity occurring without the action of the other thing coming into existence... My eventual plan was to CFJ on "A person CAN come into existence" (arguing that the rules provide no method for them to do so) and then "[Some person born recently] exists" (arguing that if they CANNOT come into existence, how could they possibly exist?). Those might themselves be IRRELEVANT, though... -- Jason Cobb
