On 7/1/2020 8:24 PM, omd via agora-business wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 8:00 PM Jason Cobb wrote:
>>> CoE: This resolution is invalid because the decision was already resolved 
>>> the previous time, because G.’s vote was invalid, because it did not 
>>> “clearly set[] forth the voter’s intent to place the identified vote”.
>>
>>
>> In what way was it not clear? It was certainly not conspicuous, but it
>> was clear.
> 
> Although “clear and conspicuous” is a common legal term, I consider it at 
> least
> partly a legal doublet, like “null and void”.  It may be possible to be
> conspicuous without being clear, but it is much more questionable whether
> something can be clear without being conspicuous.
> 
> For example, Google’s dictionary definition of “clear” is:
> 
> 1. easy to perceive, understand, or interpret.
> 
> However, the ballot in question went out of its way to make it hard for 
> players
> to perceive it, or understand or interpret that it was a ballot.

So I kind of think like you do omd.  This was the result of a judgement in
2018 (an Apathy intent with the exact same type of hiding) and Jason's
previous answer (that there's a difference between "clear" and
"conspicuous") became became the precedent.  That's why "unobfuscated" was
added to dependent action intent requirements.  For non-dependent actions,
filed it in the back pocket, figured someone would get away with it once
and it would fixed by proposal.  Or a subsequent CFJ would find more in
your direction.

Unfortunately the case is in the still-large cfj archive gap in 2018.
Been browsing BUS backwards and haven't found it yet.  Will add it to
gratuitous when I do...

-G.

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